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No Spelunkin’ Today or Peppersauce Canyon: A Trip Report
« on: October 05, 2015, 08:01:16 AM »
The new and improved Pepper Sauce trip is posted at:
http://thefreerangenaturist.org/2015/10/04/no-spelunkin-today-or-peppersauce-canyon/

The second solo trip will appear toward the end of the week. I may, or may not get a new trip report out the following week, because we will be on a trip...naked. My time may be limited upon return. There will be at least a ditty or two that I have written about free range naturism, before that trip report about that trip. The site won't go dead for a week.
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Re: No Spelunkin’ Today or Peppersauce Canyon: A Trip Report
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2015, 04:39:10 PM »
The VW story brought back memories from my college days also; those amazing adventures on a shoe string budget. I usually carried a gallon of gas for one of those just in case moments. Add a 12 pack of beer, cold pizza or cheap burgers, a blanket, maybe a joint if you were lucky and your college honey off to find that elusive private area and it was even better with water! As much as I enjoy my day hikes the scenery does get boring after awhile, not like your epic adventures have been. A classic case of quality on your part verses quantity on my part.
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Re: No Spelunkin’ Today or Peppersauce Canyon: A Trip Report
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2015, 08:40:56 PM »
The VW story brought back memories from my college days also; those amazing adventures on a shoe string budget. I usually carried a gallon of gas for one of those just in case moments. Add a 12 pack of beer, cold pizza or cheap burgers, a blanket, maybe a joint if you were lucky and your college honey off to find that elusive private area and it was even better with water! As much as I enjoy my day hikes the scenery does get boring after awhile, not like your epic adventures have been. A classic case of quality on your part verses quantity on my part.
Yea, Now you've brought me back some more. We used to just take off on the cheap gas, nearly every weekend to blow off steam from Studies and stress. That war and draft was going on and adding pressure and it seemed that everything was a huge schism of change and uncertainty. Poof, we'd be out crusin'. Without that valve, I'd have melted down.
Sex drugs and rock in roll was the rest of it and bonded us, the seasoning in the threat of the work and the mundane, the fun, uplifting throughout the week. I didn't always have my own place, and spent part of that time living with my parents. Always working and school it seemed. Living on the Mexican border, and the times, I was swooped up in a smokey cloud.

So, I had this very hot girl, we were consumed in hormones and we lived in this wide open diverse area of sky islands. We skinnydipped with friends at Redington and Sabino, there was only around a quarter million in the area back then.

We never knew where we were going or where we would end up. We found ourselves on the California coast one weekend. We did "it" three or four times a day, wherever we could find a place, often in that tiny little VW back seat. The naturism just followed that, in the age of Woodstock Nation.

So, this also gives me an idea. I should better explain our diversity of habitat on the website. We do have an incredible variety of places to go in Southern Arizona. There can always be something completely different and fun within one to four hours drive. I'm going to post a youtube flick at the website today, explaining what nature does for our naturism and the blessings of free range.
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Re: No Spelunkin’ Today or Peppersauce Canyon: A Trip Report
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2015, 05:55:23 PM »
I remember the drive from Phoenix to the Grand Canyon and marveling at the diversity there over the few hundred miles of travel. I see what you mean as the southern part of the state is actually more diverse. Thanks for posting the video; also you are becoming an ambassador of naturism in your little corner of the world. If only I could plan and afford a trip out west again armed with the knowledge you have given me!
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Re: No Spelunkin’ Today or Peppersauce Canyon: A Trip Report
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2015, 06:49:00 PM »
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It is nearly inconceivable to me that there are so many deer as to create problems. I have always thought of people coming out here in the west to hunt from other states. I have had no idea.

I’ve seen news articles about people in emergency rooms with injuries from the deer coming through the windshield and hitting the driver or passengers. Sometimes fatally.

A ban on hunting “Bambi” isn’t always a good idea. You end up with a population boom in the herds, over grazing and deer wandering into communities looking for food. That’s the law of unintended consequences at work.

I saw a program years ago about the reintroduction of wolves into Yellowstone. It was dramatic. There had been a problem in areas with the disappearing water habitat for fish and other river and stream wildlife. The lack of vegetation on the streams and rivers was allowing an increased rate of erosion.

The result of monitoring the park determined that there were too many elk. They were over grazing and also eating saplings that would have stabilized the river and stream banks.

After the wolves were brought back the vegetation on the banks returned and re-established the small pools and bends in the stream beds where all sorts of plants and animals lived. The plants also acted as filters causing the water to become clear again. The time lapse photography of the recovery was amazing to see.

This isn't the show I saw, but if you are willing to sit through a movie, there are parts where this is shown see here. We not only don’t know everything we don’t even know how what we do know is connected.

Just like the over suppression of naturally occurring fires created a much larger problem in forests, we are slowly learning that the systems that function without us do so because we aren’t needed and usually do more damage than good when we attempt to control them.

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Re: No Spelunkin’ Today or Peppersauce Canyon: A Trip Report
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2015, 06:52:54 PM »
Which reminds me,

I got a weblink from a friend that is so weird it's hard to believe that it is not a joke. The caller "sounds" sincere and the radio host seems to believe so also. It's just such an odd call. You have to hear it to understand that some people have no clue how nature works.

Quote from: the message from my friend,
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/CI8UPHMzZm8?rel=0

I'm still laughing.  LMAO!! Tears, I'm laughing so hard.

Enjoy

The caller must a city dweller having never been out into nature, or is simply unaware.
It IS funny, but my reaction was one more of disbelief!

Duane

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Re: No Spelunkin’ Today or Peppersauce Canyon: A Trip Report
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2015, 11:55:35 PM »
Woohoo! Great flicks! Thank-you.

I took an “Ecology” class in college around 1971. It was a new word, a catch phrase to most, at that time. The knowledge was pretty small, rudimentary. As we see in the flick, the knowledge has grown during the 45 years since. Using these simple principles, given by a passionate teacher, I have been stimulate to apply these simple principles and observation ever since. My understanding has often been misconstrued, or mistaken, but what I have seen has been nothing short of astounding, revelatory. My personal experience has been a reflection of what the people in the field have been having. It generally takes time in one area, seasons and years. The sky island region in its complexity can never be deeply managed. Man is just too ignorant and lacks the resources to adjust to the diversity. The complexity of nature also, is one of those awe inspiring things that impact me in a spiritual manner.

The audacity and ignorance of 20th century man in particular, armed with the ego of simplistic science has proven to be…just incredible over the years. In major fields, trusted fields, man has demonstrated and still does, that our knowledge is like that of babes, and young boys. I found the psychology that I studied in the seventies a joke. The authorities trapped and limiting themselves, clamoring to the industrial money, then of the Rockefeller Foundation and empirical demands. The dominate culture is still limited similarly, amazingly ignorant. Medicine has seen impractical and damaging fads, over and over again, taking small measures and discounting small pieces, just like murdering predators. There is little understanding of interrelationships, lifestyle, and there is exploitation from pure greed. Breast milk is inferior, thyroid serves no function, all cholesterol is bad, and the examples are endless. Sometimes it is necessary to adjust a child that is too big for its pants, but these foolish kids have me powerless.

After that last trip into the White Mountains, when I called the Forest Service, I learned more of their wolf reintroduction program and how they are using satellite tracking and moving cattle away from wolves as the Peter Coyote flick shows us prey shift the over grazing. This is a new concept in my thinking. I continuously see the destruction that cattle cause. There are no 1200 pound beasts with foot prints that size, lumbering through, wallowing, browsing quantities of brush and shrubs in the natural habitat here. Cattle are devastating. Then, I think without this on public lands, how much richer life could be. I have observed the protected areas around here. Like that pristine area in Zion (we were there last summer, I recognized that, there are too many people) the difference and experience is astounding.

The economics of this cattle ranching on the public lands is about large corporations. They are either in direct control, or squeezing the life out of the smaller ranchers that work so hard. The percentage of the entire western states grazing on public lands is only 7% of the total production of cattle in the country. That’s like opting to not eat a burger for lunch once a week. We could do without, and never really notice it. There are books about this; the mess goes on and on. My thinking has been that with the competition gone things would return to normal and flourish, and I have seen numerous dramatic examples of this. I figured that nature would increase the amount of game, so that hunting and eco-tourism would provide better economic impact and sustainability. BUT, here is another factor introduced. While less destructive than cattle, the deer, elk, etc., need to be driven by predators. Predators are natural shepherds preventing overgrazing. Here I am, the ignorant man.

So, I am finding that there are kinds of ecology in all aspects of life to be discovered. Man needs to learn how to interfere with the organization the least, to live with, to trust God as nature and better know the huge.  We may be best to get off of this trip, or get off of the planet.

Anyway, this gets to the practice of naturism and atavism. Here, amongst our discourse over these years, we have also found shoes, and clothing solutions and clothing indulgences that have lost sight of our nature. We need to experiment, observe, discuss and promote what we find as we relate to nature, just like these other messes that man makes. I’m grateful that this forum is here for at least a handful of us, for this purpose (among other purposes).

We are finding that the naked body is a superior vehicle, integral to the natural world. Bodies work better, healthier, efficiently, when they are left as a part of the natural world, too. The science and culture produce unsustainable and damaging practices. We are now seeing what shoes are doing to the complex systems throughout the body. From causing, all kinds of disease over years, back problems, pain, the whole system is infected. We are seeing the amazing way that they work, just like adding  wolves back to an ecosystem, the discoveries are amazing. Skin is getting more respect as science discovers that we need its wisdom and protection more that it needs our protection. We interfere and don’t trust enough. More of man’s collective ego stomping around like a bull in a china store.

Absolutism, black and white, good and bad thinking, conflict and positional action, i.e. stubbornness, dominance, have given us all a great deal of problems. There does seem to be a new aspect, an evolution in consciousness appearing, as we discover that we are all one with something incomprehensible. There are lessons occurring, mistakes becoming more and more evident, more dramatic, more publicized. In desperation and deeper understanding many are evolving into that trust. The tipping point may have to be a point of a sense of helplessness, but with these lessons of trust already understood by more, there will be a place to go.

Jbee

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Re: No Spelunkin’ Today or Peppersauce Canyon: A Trip Report
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2015, 05:56:36 PM »
Every year the move the deer crossing signs shows up in our local newspaper, sometime as a letter to the editor. As we have become more urbanized we have lost touch with nature. Being near the Rust Belt I can remember the days the street lights came on because the smoke from the mills was so bad, streams in the area ran orange from the mine waste, the river in Cleveland catching on fire and nothing grew next to the lead plant. In my lifetime I have seen fishing restored to those streams, the sky being blue, even butterflies returning to the landscape. Now that fracking has become the newest gold rush the companies spend millions in advertising to assure us it's safe. And complain that the regulations and severance taxes will hurt their industry.

As a free ranger we tend to become closer to nature. Just as the old SN days along with the heightened awareness in order to remain stealth that same awareness brings us closer to nature. The little things missed by many tend to bother us; the empty water bottle, graffiti and paper wrappers. Also the feeling of sunshine and wind on our skin, the subtle change in terrain under our feet or the lack of having a load of man made thins to carry into nature. As Jbee stated in so many words we need to learn how not to interfere; but mostly man has to learn that life is not about money.
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Re: No Spelunkin’ Today or Peppersauce Canyon: A Trip Report
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2015, 09:46:02 PM »
Uh oh, sounds like naturism turning into a full blown revolutionary act, BUT…BUT there is proof and a training ground to find a satisfying sustainable freedom in acts of simple nudity

I have never had a problem with money, what it has acquired has been tremendously satisfying to explore, even the path to acquisition has been amazing, but here is a balance needed with it. This world is out of balance to an extreme, with it. I got to thinking about Koyaanisqatsi, Life out of Balance, the movie of the 60’s. Youtube doesn’t have it for free anymore, but there is a Rorschach version available, that actually feels more in balance. Koyaanisqatsi is the Hopi term for life out of balance. I have swung back and forth on the pendulum.

Life is about experiencing life. Strife needs to cut off at acquisition of security, taking what we need and leaving the rest, and it is our more satisfied nature to share and to give. Everything else is given to us in abundance, freely, if it is not abused. A key to that consciousness and action is gratitude. Naturism, atavistic, naked in nature, as nature is naked, is a key to understanding the fundamental. It helps to put the activities and mindsets of money in perspective, to let them be seen as they are, which is realized as being way out there.
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