Dares

[JOhnGw]

Individual actions can also be effective.
There is a lone naked cyclist in mid Kent who is accepted by both the public and the authorities many of whom actually welcome him.
While I totally agree that disruptive and confrontational actions are often counterproductive they are not always so. In fact most streaking incidents have been greeted with cheers from the bystanders who are often on the side of the streaker rather than the authorities who wish to detail him (or her).

[milfmog]

You are right John, flashing4fun was not my site, I like to promote the acceptance of nudity but I think those type of dare sites are causing the opposite effect.
Cheers,
Paul

I disagree.  In my opinion the more often people are seen naked, for whatever reason, the more exposure the public has to naked people.  These dare sites encourage people to go out and be seen.  The more the better.   Your mileage may vary.

Bob,

Unfortunately, because the dares are not "normal", although they make nudity more common they make it easy for the prudes to make a case that there is nothing sensible about nudity and it should be legislated against to protect the children. That will only make the acceptance of sensible, everyday nudity harder to achieve by making it far harder for anyone to go naked outside private or authorised locations.

Individuals may become used to seeing nudity as a result of dares but prudes and small minded members of society will use them to penalise us all.

Have fun,


Ian.

[Greenbare Woods]

The "Dare" sites are about being seen naked in ordinary places like signs, monuments, art galleries, and gas stations.  They encourage people to be seen and give the public an opportunity to see human bodies, even briefly.  Even the streaker at the football game gets plenty of cheering from most of the crowd as he or she is being chased by the anti-body police.   Even the ones going "tut tut tut" about the streaker enjoyed the fun and watched the bare human being. 

Our own censorship is our worst enemy in promoting nudism, in my opinion.

[eyesup]

There's are several types of dare.

The challenge to yourself (can I do it), the opportunity to challenge, shock, appall, upset, disturb, disquiet, astound, astonish, amaze, surprise, or otherwise unnerve those around you in order to change the norm or to simply draw attention to yourself.

The 1st two, I don't take issue with. The last is merely self aggrandizement.

Duane

[JOhnGw]

Our own censorship is our worst enemy in promoting nudism, in my opinion.

Self-censorship is always the most dangerous kind in any context from naturism to politics.

[nuduke]

Paul,
Thanks for 'dropping in'!  Good to know you are still visiting us fairly frequently.
John

[Greenbare Woods]

There's are several types of dare.

The challenge to yourself (can I do it), the opportunity to challenge, shock, appall, upset, disturb, disquiet, astound, astonish, amaze, surprise, or otherwise unnerve those around you in order to change the norm or to simply draw attention to yourself.
Duane

My first outdoor nude experience was about age 9 or so.  One summer night I was on a sleepover with the boys who lived next door.  Someone dared someone else to get out of his sleeping bag and run naked across the yard to the back gate, and return.  Soon we had all done it.  And a few nights later we were daring each other to go out the back gate (our school yard) and over to the school.  Running naked through the night felt really good.  I was hooked. 

I don't think it really matters why someone decides to take off his clothes or her clothes and run naked or stand naked or pose naked.  The experience for him and whoever sees him is worth whatever was the reason.  Your mileage may vary.

Bob 

[eyesup]

My 1st time ever intentionally naked outdoors was also when in grade school.

Like you, hooked.

Duane

[Greenbare Woods]

I have decided to participate in the DARES site.  If JohnGw can do it then so can I, for all the reasons mentioned above.  I've had some fun times the past few days driving around naked looking for "DARE" opportunities. 

[eyesup]

Good luck and lets hope for personal report, not a police one! 

Duane

[Greenbare Woods]

One of the listed "Dares" is buying gas (petrol) for your car naked.  I have done that in the past but not with a camera out.  Since I don't have a co-conspirator I have to set up a tripod with my camera, set the timer, run out in front, and wait for the photo.  That's kind of complicated at a filling station and creates more exposure.  But I'm wanting to do it. 

Not the big place in town by the grocery, I thought.  Perhaps a small town convenience store.  Yesterday I drove 10 miles to a nearby small town that has 1 store with 2 gas pumps.  Nobody else was getting gas.  Only 1 car at the store.  Now is my chance, I thought. 

My plan was to wear shorts while managing the gas hose, setting up the camera, etc.  I got the first one done when a line of 3 cars drove up and occupied the other 3 spots a the 2 pumps.  Three women got out and began chatting and looking at me.  I still had on my shorts and had not yet set up a camera.  I changed my mind about the naked photo opportunity. 

I filled my gas, got my receipt, and drove off.  Another car with another single female immediately took the spot where I had been.  Sheeesh!  A parade.  Like they all gather to get gas and lunch or something.   I stopped about a block away, took off my shorts, and the drove home.  Maybe next time. 

[eyesup]

You could try one of those magnetic pocket tripods, place it toward the front of the car and take the picture aimed to the rear. You wouldn't have to hassle with a regular tripod.

Of course it would depend on how heavy the camera is.

Duane

[jbeegoode]

Murphy at work? It is as if a synchronistic principle in the universe draws energy to a convergence. Is it fears, or cracking the calm waters of the norm, or some kind of phenomena?

 In the White mountains, we get a family, one child, a parent who works for the forest Service, a mother-in-law, and a young girl, the one that is at the age of exploitation and targeting, virginal innocence with budding womanhood, that everyone will overly protect.

After seeing no signs of anybody for 48 hours in a remote difficult to get out of spot in the Pinalenos, I squat and am wiping when out of nowhere a dog walker pops over the hill! No one to be seen again.

Not one, but three women who hang out, by some collective unconscious connection.

When you make your move and break the rules, it is as though the universe knows and there is an attraction of opposing energy. It is predisposed, but there seems to be a last moment of attraction, too.
Jbee

[eyesup]

I have expressed a similar observation to Mrs. E who seems to believe that this is all my fault. She says it's my karma. i.e. I bring this on myself. I disagree.

The clear evidence of repeated occurrences of irritating simultaneity does not mean I have bad karma. The forces of confusion lay against me.    I have been fortunate, though, that when it comes to my naked hiking I haven't had these sorts of convergences. 

Now that I've brought that up, I have brought myself to their attention. I should be careful next time out.   

Years ago, back before the miniaturization of portable noisemakers, I was tromping about in a back canyon in a local park. I was where I thought was remote and away from all the noise of the main tourist area.

All of a sudden I hear a boombox doing it's thang. A guy and his friends come walking around the bend and he is carrying a small suitcase sized boombox on his shoulder. It must have weighed 10 lbs. The only supplies they carried was a cooler full of beer. At least they were young and fully capable of managing the effort.

You can't get away from determined foolishness. There is a codicil to Murphy's Law that states that, "There is no such thing as foolproof because fools are so damn clever!"

Duane

[JOhnGw]

The ability to see patterns in things is something innate in the human brain.
I understand that it evolved in primitive man when the ability to detect patterns of movement and other signs was essential for the survival of a creature with no body armour, not particularly fleet of foot and with less brute strength than most of its predators and prey. Since then it has proved invaluable in enabling us to read, drive cars and do the research which has resulted in the technology which we now have available.

However, like most gifts it has its downside.
This is an ability to see spurious patterns and causality in things where it does not exist. This has given rise to much superstition, many public scares and reactions like those of Mrs. E.
This is why "peer review" is so important in science amongst many other checks and balances in public life.
I should know - I have caught myself out at this many times.