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A Week in the White Mountains: Part 4
« on: September 28, 2016, 06:58:53 AM »
Another fabulous day and a fun hike with encounters:
https://thefreerangenaturist.org/2016/09/28/a-week-in-the-white-mountains-part-4/
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Re: A Week in the White Mountains: Part 4
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2016, 04:49:14 PM »
Unreal! Some of the wildlife places I hike have meadows but nothing like that! It is just a shame that jeep and quad traffic ruin the wildlife viewing. Too bad you could not glean more information from your encounter. When she mentioned dropping trousers did she mean to relieve herself or to be naked?

How far did you hike? Noticing DF's water bottle I tend to drink at least twice that on a hike. Or do you carry a purifier and refill?

On the return I could see you two doing a naked happy dance finding the neighbors gone. That is only because I have done the same on occasion!
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Re: A Week in the White Mountains: Part 4
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2016, 06:47:09 PM »
When she dropped trou on that remote Gila Box trail, she was just toileting. Hadn't seen anyone in a couple of days. Didn't see anyone else. Just perfect timing. Otherwise we would have loved to more spend time with a fellow naturist much better versed than us about the area. Yea, she she hikes dressed.

I don't know how far we hiked. It was more a pleasant naturist stroll, with many stops and no goals for four hours or so. We imbibed, savored, each step. After looking at google Earth, it wasn't much distance. Maybe three miles plus and that back, adding side jaunts. For example, we discovered that the road wrapped around that meadow in a U through the forest, so as the crow flies it wasn't covering distance ...only maybe a 1/2 mile exploring the other-side, taking off shoots just to explore.

That's a major thing about this place. We can stroll completely unencumbered for miles, 10 or twenty in a radius, with most other campers only along the main roads in big RV's. There are many of these winding little roads among this to explore. like a huge park. All I need is a little shoulder protection, hat and shoes. Next trip there, I'll probably leave all clothing behind, just to embrace the feeling of liberation. That strategy to just sit off the road during encounters works very well there.

We encountered those two quads when out and about. There were probably four sets of quads from a mile or two away that came by visiting by our campsite, one set a few of times. That's in nearly five days. If anything, while we're out and about, they would drive the wildlife toward us. The wildlife might go into the safer deep forest to protect from the noise, but then so do we. I saw a herd of elk a few hundred yards from the highway, in a huge field, years ago, near the restricted preserve that we were about a mile from. The lack of wildlife is weird to me. I'll see more critters in my desert. It probably has to do with the harsh winters. Few bunnies and rabbit raisins, but lots of squirrels. There is a population of something rodent under the ground in many places. Those huge hawks have to make a living. If we can avoid people and keep mostly to roads, animals can certainly avoid people when they have travel without roads. With the new GPS, I'll probably spend time backpacking in the restricted area, which has no roads, just to observe critters. After decades, I still remember the elk herd that I "once" saw and I've never seen a wild bear. It is thrilling. Imagine naked in a pristine alpine forest, naked, close enough to smell them as they browse in the field, just to be a part of the landscape, primitive. I get a big kick out of Javalina, deer and big cats clothed, and even more naked. A herd of huge elk crossing my trail, a bear (but not too close), woohoo!

As for water, I usually carry a pair of liters in my mailbag rig, if there is no water to filter, like this place. We were strolling, not marching, in perfectly pleasant weather. I don't need that much. I learned to regulate in the desert in New Mexico as a kid. DF drinks much more. She usually carries one or two on shoulder straps. Sometimes, One of us will carry the weight, so the other gets to enjoy the freedom of more totally naked and unencumbered.
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Re: A Week in the White Mountains: Part 4
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2016, 07:40:20 PM »
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The walk is very pleasant, a nice stroll through the forest. We do notice during an uphill grade that this high elevation can still get to us.

This has happened to me. It is easy to forget while walking along on flat or what appears to be an easy path, that you are above 9000 ft. We were at Cedar Breaks in Utah once and we walked out to a small grove of Bristlecone Pines. It was actually a gentle descent down to the trees, very easy. Walking back up to the trail became a chore as we were above 10,000 ft. elevation. Fooled by the brain.

It is frustrating to go to great lengths to go somewhere remote, only to get there and find other people there, especially if they aren’t FRN. A remote location and the elevation would tend to hold down the visitors.

Once I cross 9000 ft. or so it will take me a day or two to acclimatize. On just a day hike, I’ll take 3 liters. At that elevation your metabolism increases to adjust and you need more water. Once you get acclimatized it should slow down. You could filter water from the lake, right? Unless it functions as a wild version of a stock pond. That can get pretty fragrant.

Wildlife is exhilarating but I would rather not bump into large predators. I look and smell too much like food. Especially if they haven’t been eating well. Remember the joke about pepper spray and bells on your clothes? But it is best to know how to deal with them if you do encounter them.

When my daughter was in Scouts, we camped a few time in Hualapai State Park just south of Kingman. We would see elk there frequently. When we would take the boys to Havasupai we would see herds of 20 or more moving around up in the forested areas. The 1st time I saw elk I was amazed at how large they are.

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Re: A Week in the White Mountains: Part 4
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2016, 08:47:09 PM »
The next segment, part 5, has me deep thinking my concerns of a bear encounter. Bear evidence is everywhere and they are very close.

They are black bears, not brown or grizzly, the mammoth and more aggressive bear. Not to get arrogant about them, or dismiss the possibilities of danger.

There is nothing but very few standing rainwater and marshy springs. There are bowls of rainwater in the volcanic rock. We also had no idea where we were going to end up. It just unfolded around every corner. The Lake has paddle boats and fishing and we were moving away from it. The lake is so thick with green water plants that you have to be submerged to waist before you can get into the boat or canoe, according to the neighbors. Not quite a big cattle tank, but influenced because of the way the creek feeds it. The other lakes in the region don't have that thick stuff, they are comparatively barren places with stocked fish.

Altitude sickness in the Andes always took about 24 hours as the known rule, less with Mate de Coca. This was after several days up there and we were getting winded much easier going up a hill. It apparently takes more acclamation than the sickness end of the spectrum to just hike and be active. That's why the locals have such big chests in the Andes. You are correct and I tend to forget that altitude factor. Fortunately DF keeps me down to a more casual observant pace for the most part. It is mostly about being in the moment with awareness for us and we tend to notice.
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