Drone update

[JOhnGw]

In my opinion a more valid size comparison would be using a digital photograph of a truly inspirational painting at the minimum pixel density which would preserve its iconic status.
I leave it to the true geeks to determine this figure.

[eyesup]

I would agree, except for the images of paintings.

When I lived in Houston, A portion of The Armand Hammer collection came to the Museum of Fine Arts there. I was able to approach paintings by great masters to within a few feet. I could see brush strokes and how colors were used to create the image. I could then move back several feet to see the overall effect.

I will never be a painter but being able to see how the paint was used to create the image certainly would generate many different kinds of inspiration.

I read somewhere years ago that when Mr. Gates built his monument he didn't have paintings in his house. He had flat screens every where that randomly showed different pictures of art. Seemed to be more interested in quantity than anything else. You wouldn't be able to walk up to the canvas and see HOW it was done.

Some technologies lend themselves better than others.

Duane

[jbeegoode]

After watching John P.'s wonderful geeky techy videos but enlightening, the toys look very fun. I did notice that the quad sounded like a swarm of bees. Naked in the desert, this is an alarming noise, everything stops and we wait. Now, I know that it can mean something else. The bees are likely to be swarming at a sufficient height to avoid contact, they pass by. One of these things would nail me down, as I would be thinking bees, and then spy on me. It is good to know this and how to track them other than just visually.

After shooting it down, it is good to know that I would be sticking my finger in front of the owner's virtual face as it sits in my hand. Now, have I just acquired my own damaged quad, or what?

5 kilometers, eh! Hmmm.....
Jbee

[eyesup]

Are you talking about honey bees or those ground dwelling wasps?

Around here if I see one of those wasps on the ground I keep my eyes peeled for their burrow. I don't want to step into that!

Duane

[nuduke]

I will never be a painter

That's what I thought till I first gave it a go about 2010!  I can knock out a half decent watercolour these days! (Mind you, put the emphasis on the 'half''....Michaelangelo I ain't!). 


If you mean you never want to be a painter then that's absolutely fine - it's a choice.  But if you have an inkling to try it but don't believe you have any talent for painting, I would be sceptical about that belief.  Like ANY technique - it can be learned.  These days I find that getting a picture at the end is about accurate drafting and careful mathematical layout at the beginning ...before you slosh the colour on.  Go to a starters class, Duane, that's how I got started!


But beware - if you get hooked it competes for your time versus naturist hikes!  I guess it would be perfectly possible to take some art kit and paint 'au plein air' whilst nué au nature!  I paint in my office and that's often nude (me not the office!).


John

[Peter S]

That recalls the Dave Allen sketch.

Artist to model: "would you mind if I paint you in the nude?"

Model: "of course not."

Artist: "thank you" and strips off

[jbeegoode]

They identified me as an art prodigy when I was a kid. I haven't done much drawing since mid high school. Water color was always a challenge, not much fun. I liked oils. "One of these days" I'm going to use the 50 year old set of oil paints that I found when my parents passed on. I'll have just that one set of tubes it get it and have fun.

These days I have fun drawing plans. I build things. I want to sculpt buildings and walls, which I have done.

I have a couple of buckets of quartz pea gravel in different colors. "One of these days" I'll turn that into a mosaic.
 
I build things out of old crap. Not that it is art, but it is creative and I'm just that cheap.

I like photography, set it up, push a button, most of the time on "auto."

I find that I like writing.

Everyone of these things is a nude activity.

Jbee



 

[Peter S]

http://www.popsci.com/it-is-federal-crime-to-shoot-down-drone-says-faa

Just so you know ...

[jbeegoode]

Thank-you. My response, prove it. My response, invasion of privacy is illegal. Second Amendment has lots of constitutional actions that have gone through the Supreme Court. It is not illegal to protect yourself from an illegal act, or a threat to your property , or body, so privacy would also be included. It would have to get it through the courts. If they are flying that low, it is illegal. You can't fly below 1000 ft. over urban, suburban areas, it follows that that would include drones, if they are considered aircraft. If there is a safety issue to shooting them down. In short it has to go through the courts, the FAA doesn't police these things, they are not pilots. The origin of the shooting has to be proven. The identity has to be proven, the gun must be found and linked to the target.

The FAA can rule all that they want, but it is unenforceable, too much trouble, and probably illegal, an overstep. Endangering public safety has many levels of consequence, depending.
 
The laws which deny firing a weapon in urban areas are more likely to be enforced. Those laws are not easily enforced either.

The police are busy and it is a very very low priority, unless there is a ready made case for them.

Jus' my thoughts....
Jbee

[ric]

rifle bullets they can match the bullet to the barrel it was fired through ,  shotcun pellets are as far as i know immpossible to match to the gun....maybe to brand of ammo .

deny it and proof is difficult

in uk getting hold of a shotgun is difficult and as all are recorded it would be simple to find the owners in a given area.

air rifles are common and unrecorded... pellet could be matched to the barrel but theyve got to find it first.... if i show plod the 2 air rifles in the closet would they search the barns for the other one they dont know exists?

assuming nobody was killed by the falling drone it would be a lot of time and expense for a minor crime

[Greenbare Woods]

rifle bullets they can match the bullet to the barrel it was fired through ,  shotgun pellets are as far as i know immpossible to match to the gun....maybe to brand of ammo .
deny it and proof is difficult

Shotgun pellets can't be matched. 

in uk getting hold of a shotgun is difficult and as all are recorded it would be simple to find the owners in a given area.

In the US, virtually every rural residence has at least one shotgun, most have more than one.  So do lots city people. 

air rifles are common and unrecorded... pellet could be matched to the barrel but theyve got to find it first.... if i show plod the 2 air rifles in the closet would they search the barns for the other one they dont know exists?

I don't think you can match barrels of most air rifles either.  But they would be ineffective or difficult to shoot down a drone.  A shotgun or throwing a towel would be more effective.

assuming nobody was killed by the falling drone it would be a lot of time and expense for a minor crime

Yep.  Will the drone owner argue with the shotgun guy?    Probably not.

Bob

[ric]

the barn in the field next to us has just got planning for conversion , estate agents were out last week taking piccies for the marketing... they had a drone up for airial shots , it hovers to take pics so a stationary target well within air rifle range... i was tempted....no bang with an air rifle so the drone oporator wouldnt even know he was being shot at

[Greenbare Woods]

it hovers to take pics so a stationary target well within air rifle range... i was tempted....no bang with an air rifle so the drone oporator wouldnt even know he was being shot at

A paint ball gun like Airsoft might be a really good choice for low flying drones. 

[jbeegoode]

Paintball and air-soft are difficult because the trajectory arch is so extreme, but they are silent. A BB rifle can be straighter and rapid fire. Pellet guns can be scoped and run straight for a pretty good range and more accurate than the rest. The preparation can be loads of fun. Target practice can be done in a front yard, depending where you live. Hunting drones would make wonderful challenging sport...naked. No powder burns or hot barrels.

I'm getting read to sell my paintball gear...hmm.
Jbee

[rrfalcon]

The FAA regulations for drones don't say anything about altitude for recreational use, but for commercial use they can't fly *above* 400 feet. So clearly the 1000 foot minimum doesn't apply to drones. Shooting one down would be illegal under several laws (federal, state, and local) including interfering with an aircraft, vandalism, private property destruction, etc.

The drone operator has to keep the drone in sight, so it shouldn't be that hard to find him and complain.