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« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2017, 05:39:48 PM »
Un-stepping the Mast  Yet another foreign language. Some terms I recognize from reading and movies, others are completely unknown to me.

In the Wikipedia article the ancient practices of this tradition have continued till now. Some, like the placing of coins for good luck or to pay the boatman, show up in all manner of old death and burial traditions, e.g. coins on the eyes when burying a body.

Interesting!

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I like to sail in a breeze, more than in a blow.  Prefer to relax and dispel life's rough edges, no clothes and a cool beverage among friends.
The only time I have ever been on a sailboat was a small 2 man my brother had. It was limited to one afternoon on a lake. Your comment reminded me of that.

I enjoy canoeing and the afternoon in that little sailboat was like canoeing, only I didn’t have to paddle. :)  I could relax and just enjoy the wind, the natural sounds of the lake and the quiet passage through the water.

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« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2017, 07:19:32 PM »
Un-stepping the Mast  Yet another foreign language. Some terms I recognize from reading and movies, others are completely unknown to me.
Duane

Sailing terminology comes from a thousand years of sailing ships manned by sailors from many lands.  Learning the language is a big part of becoming part of the crew on a boat.






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« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2017, 12:12:46 AM »

Coming a bit late to this thread, could I nevertheless offer my sympathy for your unfortunate accident, Safebare, and hope for speedy and successful recovery.  My advice - DO the Physiotherapy and exercises religiously.  They are one of the key things to promoting good repair and renewal.
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« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2017, 04:04:09 PM »
Thank you John.  I am not the best patient, but I do understand the importance of PT in recovery and will step up to the challenge.

I am enjoying the sailboat terminology discussions.  The culture and rules are critical to safe boating.  My brother races, and his reactions must be instinctual.  I prefer the methodical approach.  Too much drama in regattas. 

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« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2017, 05:46:00 PM »
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I prefer the methodical approach.  Too much drama in regattas.
Back in the 80’s when my brother was showing me how to tack, he failed (I maintain intentionally) to warn me about the boom swinging on the turn. Hey! We’re brothers!

Not only did I not synchronize the two, I managed to give him an opportunity where he was able to demonstrate the skill of righting a sailboat. He stood on the centerboard while I tried to run the water off of the sail.  At least it was a small boat.

I lost my cool $75 Raybans in Lake Tawakoni, and that was in 1980’s $$$.
‘Course it ain’t cool to tip the boat over. That’s probably why I lost them. :D

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« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2017, 06:14:09 PM »
One of my first major purchases was a Folbot Kayak, complete with 100sf sails.  It had a main and jib and was a kick to have.  I was 13 yo.  My parents drove me, along with 2 brothers, to the beach for the initial launch into the surf.  None of us had any sailing experience.  We rigged the boat and loaded up in the kayak, tacking directly into the surf.  Mom and dad were relaxing on the beach with cold beers in hand, enjoying the entertainment.  I would have said that they were there to help or render aid, but neither were provided.
At the 3rd sandbar, the surf turned us sideways and capsized the 3 of us.  All were excellent swimmers and lost no time dousing the sails, unstepping the mast and righting the boat in the turbulent water, too deep for footholds.  The older brother and i were responsible for disassembly of the various structural parts, promptly handing them to little bro', who always seemed to have an extra hand available for whatever rigging we freed from the capsized craft.
Once we had the kayak righted and began stowing the rigging, we learned the secret.  Little bro' could not hold onto any of the parts and tread water at the same time, so he promptly let loose of the rigging we gave him.
When we made it back to shore, and the 'rents finished laughing, we were able to collect everything from the shore, save the aluminum mast sections.  We made sure to plug Styrofoam into the ends of the replacement sections so that they would float next time.
Once I got my sailing legs, that boat and I were inseparable.  It was awesome as a kayak, surfing the coastal break, and would challenge all other mono-hull sailboats on the water.  Only the experienced catamaran sailors could best me.  The boat lasted until my college years before the wood frame and canvass deteriorated to the point the boat was unsafe.   
Haven't capsized, under sail, since and fully intend to maintain that record.
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« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2017, 08:42:56 PM »
Fun times on the beach with family.
Looked up Folbot just to try and see what their kayaks looked like and found that they are out of business.

A folding kayak with sails? Your had pontoons?

I saw some photos showing a ‘center board’ mounted off the side on a cross member. I guess that would have to work. You couldn’t have a center board on the keel.

Keep in mind I’m a novice wannabe.

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« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2017, 11:46:50 PM »
Mine didn't fold and it had 2 swing 'lee-boards' mounted on the sides. Probably what you observed in the photos. It was a perfect novice sailing craft. Plus, you could surf with it!

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« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2017, 12:45:51 AM »
I still have my faltbote. It doesn't fold up very well anymore. I have the plans to put a simple sail on it, but no jib. I got it for the lakes.

There was a guy selling them up until last year for thousands of bucks. Mine is from east Germany ...1964, I think. He was my parts source, but I got an email from him stating that he was throwing in the towel. I got it for use on the lakes and I've seen them used in the Baja of Mexico on the gulf side.

Here is a trip report using it on Apache Lake:
https://thefreerangenaturist.org/2015/10/16/apache-lake-i-a-trip-report/#more-566
There was a little more on Apache Lake that month in the archives.

Maiden Voyage:
https://thefreerangenaturist.org/2017/01/06/lake-patagonia/#more-2179

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« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2017, 01:25:13 AM »
I tried windsurfing in Cancun once and by the end of the week sort-of had the hang of it. I could move up and down the beach without beating myself up. But, I never picked it up once I got back home. It was fun.

Surfing is hard enough without trying to hang on to a sail that is essentially a very large animated joystick control.
Challenging at first.

Duane

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« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2017, 01:28:20 AM »
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We arrived back at camp and attempted to take photos of the snow made of light cottonwood cotton floating around us. The tree was full of it, like fairies.
I was backpacking down in Supai Canyon on the Havasu Creek, south of the Grand Canyon/Colorado River about 6 years ago.

My friend was using a tarp instead of a tent and it covered his gear well enough but the cottonwoods were releasing the cotton and spreading their seed all over. On returning to the campsite after a day hike the stuff was piled up under the tarp 6” thick. Both of us reacted the same.

At 1st we thought his sleeping bag had been ripped open by squirrels or other critters looking for food. There was that much. When we got closer we could see it wasn’t down but the cotton from the trees.

Check out the .kmz file below for the site. A gorgeous place when it isn’t crowded.

Duane

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« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2017, 08:39:10 AM »
Fun times on the beach with family.
Looked up Folbot just to try and see what their kayaks looked like and found that they are out of business.

A folding kayak with sails? Your had pontoons?

I saw some photos showing a ‘center board’ mounted off the side on a cross member. I guess that would have to work. You couldn’t have a center board on the keel.

Keep in mind I’m a novice wannabe.

Duane
Probably actually a lee-board as commonly fitted to sailing barges.


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« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2017, 05:08:17 AM »
Whaoh, I've never seen a lee board that huge size! Attaching the lee board to a faltboot is much more modest, the mast is equally so.
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« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2017, 02:10:48 PM »
Whaoh, I've never seen a lee board that huge size! Attaching the lee board to a faltboot is much more modest, the mast is equally so.
Jbee
So there are some things that are bigger this side of the puddle.  LOL
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« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2017, 04:03:48 PM »
All this talk about sailing and I'm getting the itch! Only been sailing twice and would love to learn how sometime in the future. In the meantime and back to topic; daily walks have not been much of a problem but attempting a hike on the Solstice left me short of breath on exertion. Unlike the walks the hike entailed a steep grade on a hill and I had to quit and rest before returning to my vehicle. I guess my kidneys have not quite returned, if they ever will, to keep me from fluid overload. There are appointments in the near future so I'll try to increase my stamina till then.
"Always do what you are afraid to do"-Emerson