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Pulled over
« on: June 16, 2017, 06:31:12 AM »
Driving naked  is very popular topic on nude forums and here on FRN is no exception.   I could have put this post under that thread here, but since my post involves the intervention of the Law, I decided to start a new thread, curious to see what follows.   

Last September I was mixing business with some recreation when a business related trip for the audio-visual company that I work for, took me up to Burlington Vermont to deliver an audio system rental to a client at the University of Vermont.    I had to return a couple of days later to pick it up for return so rather than drive back to Boston and back up to Vermont again, I chose to head down to Grout Pond to spend a couple of days of nude camping, hiking and paddling with John and another Dan in our group who came up to join me.    It was during that time in fact that we re-established a long neglected trail up the western shore of the Somerset Reservoir whose eastern shore trail we nude hiked just two weeks ago and  just trip reported here.    I believe that John also has posted a report on the earlier hike as well.    This particular endeavor of ours last autumn required no clothing, and involved a substantial amount of bush whacking, swamp mucking, and ancient map consulting.   It was a grand success.   

Needless to say, that entire four days required no clothing for me except for my time with my client in Burlington.     So in the late afternoon of the first day as I was driving down Route 100 on my way between Burlington and Grout Pond further south in the state, my mind drifted to admiring the splendid scenery around me and not the speedometer in the company van that I was driving.    So in due time I had an encounter first with a pair of blue lights, and then with a smartly dressed Vermont State Trooper.    After we both pulled over to the shoulder, as he was approaching my vehicle for the first time, and me not wishing to appear that I was reaching for a weapon, I just casually draped a bandana over my privates which my searching hand found lurking long neglected amongst the dead Starbucks cups between the two front seats .     So after the usual "license and registration please" and the "do you know why I have stopped you?" banter he looked at me with sincerity and asked me why I wasn't wearing any clothes, to which I casually and truthfully replied, "I am a naturist and prefer not to wear any clothing"    He thought for a moment or two and then with a hint of a smile on his face replied "cool".      He turned and sauntered back to his car.   After about five minutes of running numbers and doing the usual paper work, he returned to my window and handed my a warning.     60 in a 50 zone.     I had been doing about 75.

-Dan

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Re: Pulled over
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2017, 07:47:47 AM »
Something I made absolutely clear to my kids over the years. Never lie to people. Always be honest and speak the truth. It may cause short term inconvenience, but in the long run even people that are bothered by the truth will always appreciate your honesty.

I have also learned, from personal experience, that law officers appreciate when people donít assume they are stupid and try to lie about all manner of silliness.

It is also possible he was a kindred spirit. :)

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Re: Pulled over
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2017, 08:25:16 AM »
Well, no need to drag you out and search you, made his job easier.

Back when I had my commercial license, I spaced out one day in Oro Valley, a speed trap town, while taking my son to school. He knew that points would be a very serious consequence, way out of line and affect my employment. I just sighed and accepted my fate. I just told him that I was taking my son to school and made a mistake. He did the least Oro VAlley cop thing and let me go!?! It often depends on the cop and his attitude about a working stiff.

There are no nudity laws in Vermont, but local ones, correct? You didn't have to cover up, but up politely did.

He didn't clock you? Did you blame the scenery?

You're just plain lucky?!
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Re: Pulled over
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2017, 02:56:26 PM »
I was caught nude in the car once. Took a detour to the beach after work, in the convertible. Didn't have shorts with me as I hadn't planned on the detour. I enjoyed a beautiful evening of bodysurfing and beach combing. Didn't see any reason to put anything on for the drive home. I pulled my shirt across my lap to board the ferry, but it was dark and I didn't think anyone could really see that I was naked.
Two officers approached the car from behind me, and asked if I was naked. I acknowledged the fact while I adjusted the shirt to ensure coverage. They ran all of the checks on me and the car, asking for details about the reasons I was not dressed. They made sure I put the pants back on before telling me to be more careful in the future.
I believe the pilot, with his eyes adjusted to the night and used to seeking out the unusual, spotted me and notified the officers riding the same ferry. Anyway, the officers recognized that I was not doing anything illegal and acted accordingly. There was a bit of authoritarian lecturing & they shouldn't have insisted I dress. I am thankful that was all I had to put up with on the otherwise wonderful detour.
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Re: Pulled over
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2017, 04:04:39 PM »
banter he looked at me with sincerity and asked me why I wasn't wearing any clothes, to which I casually and truthfully replied, "I am a naturist and prefer not to wear any clothing"    He thought for a moment or two and then with a hint of a smile on his face replied "cool".      He turned and sauntered back to his car.   After about five minutes of running numbers and doing the usual paper work, he returned to my window and handed my a warning.     60 in a 50 zone.     I had been doing about 75.
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Re: Pulled over
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2017, 04:12:05 PM »
I was caught nude in the car once. Took a detour to the beach after work, in the convertible. Didn't have shorts with me as I hadn't planned on the detour. I enjoyed a beautiful evening of bodysurfing and beach combing. Didn't see any reason to put anything on for the drive home.

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I sometimes drive my convertible naked too.  I've found that the temperature really has to be about 80F to be comfortable with all that wind, so that limits me to a few weeks each summer.  I have driven naked and top down through town on sunny afternoons.  I stop at traffic lights and watch pedestrians walk past.  I've never had any negative comments.  Most people don't bother to notice.  Its easy to see someone doesn't have a shirt, but harder to see if someone doesn't have pants without actually looking. 

Glad your police encounter went well.  I try to be very careful about traffic laws while naked.  Mostly the police are looking for fine revenue.

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Re: Pulled over
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2017, 05:18:33 PM »
   It was during that time in fact that we re-established a long neglected trail up the western shore of the Somerset Reservoir whose eastern shore trail we nude hiked just two weeks ago and  just trip reported here.    I believe that John also has posted a report on the earlier hike as well.    This particular endeavor of ours last autumn required no clothing, and involved a substantial amount of bush whacking, swamp mucking, and ancient map consulting.   It was a grand success.   

Indeed. The trip report has sunk to page 3 here:
http://freerangenaturism.com/forum/index.php?topic=856.0

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Re: Pulled over
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2017, 05:53:24 AM »


I sometimes drive my convertible naked too.  I've found that the temperature really has to be about 80F to be comfortable with all that wind, so that limits me to a few weeks each summer.  I have driven naked and top down through town on sunny afternoons.  I stop at traffic lights and watch pedestrians walk past.  I've never had any negative comments.  Most people don't bother to notice.  Its easy to see someone doesn't have a shirt, but harder to see if someone doesn't have pants without actually looking. 


Bob

The last time that I drove a convertible naked, I was under a hot Utah sun in Zion NP with the temps holding around 105F.    Top-down induced hypothermia of which you speak Bob, was not on my radar for those days!   I had flown out that way two years ago in June to float the Grand Canyon naked for ten days on a powered rafting trip, a life changing experience in itself.     As a kind of afterparty, my friend Milton joined me from back east along with friend Mike from the local area to do another week of nude backpacking and car camping on the North Rim of  the Canyon and in the Grand Staircase Escalante.   

A high point of this "after trip" for me was solo climbing Vulcan's Throne on the North Rim one comfortably warm morning.   The temperature had only just broken 100F at that early hour, yet the large flat sulfurous stones and loose gravel that comprise this ancient cinder cone where already too hot to sit and take a break upon with bare butt due to the heat retained from the previous day.    With unrelenting heat baking my body from both below and above, I firmly believe, having ample water with me, that I was definitely most comfortable doing this naked.    The agility allowed my body, being naked was also a welcome plus when scrambling up (or down) this very loose footing......think climbing a stinking pile of loose gravel just dumped from a truck, but 600 feet high.....four steps slid back for every five steps attempted forward, sinking ankle deep in my VFFs.  Coming down was like bare-foot skiing on molten dragon's scales.      Do you suppose JBee, that I should complain to Vibrams because my toe shoes don't last as long as perhaps they should?     The fresh morning breeze caught at the summit was manna from heaven when I achieved my goal and the 360 view of the Grand Canyon and both rims was astounding!     I sat upon my daypack atop the summit for a while, meditating, then spellbound, taking in the view.     Eventually with both the sun and the heat rising further, I thought it best to head back to camp for a late and well earned breakfast.     

Because of non-synching flight arrangements home between Milt and myself, I was left with a few more days to explore Zion solo which I took ample advantage of.    Because this magnificent park is now being somewhat overloved, I had to cover while hiking some parts of the more popular trails that I was able to explore in my limited time there, but Milt (before he flew home) and I still found plenty of opportunity to freehike some of the remoter sections.      I was also later able to explore some side canyons that lead up out of the Virgin Narrows, unhindered by costume.    Zion is such an amazing place that it is soooo worth braving the textile crowds to experience.   

To get back to my original story, I had reserved to rent a cheap economy car for the three days.  When I went to pick it up on a 110F day in the town of Hurricane, the best excuse for a economy model that they had on the lot was a Mustang GT convertible.    I took it without moaning very much.    Well, the only time that top was up was when I had to park and lock.    And nearly the only time that I thought about putting on my skirt those three days while I had the car was when I was to be out on foot joining the textile tourists in the lines for the shuttle buses in  the park or walking around surrounding towns where I lodged.     I will admit, if no one here threatens to report me to the Green Police, that the air conditioning in an open top Mustang GT works quite well.    And there is certainly enough power in that five litre engine to run it.   

Like you Bob, I suppose that I might have been seen occasionally as I enjoyed the Scenic Drive road that winds through the main section of the Zion, the park's awesome red cliffs towering above my open top.    Certainly viewing those majestic creations of nature is best done in an open car, if one can not spare the time to hike them.     No one seemed to notice or care about my attire.    My theory is that many people amble through life seeing only what they expect to see.    In any case it was just too damn hot those days for anyone to make a fuss.    That was a wonderful two and a half weeks naked adventure out west, that I shall long remember and treasure.    And the GT convertible, just some icing on the cake....be it a bit drippy and gooey.

-Dan

       
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Re: Pulled over
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2017, 02:38:26 PM »
My only excursion to Zion National Park was in about 1976 driving an air conditioned Chevy Impala hard top.  That was before my children were born so just me, my wife, and our dog.  We took a road tour of the western US passing Grand Canyon and Zion parks, among other places.  We got out and waded in the Virgin River, enjoyed the scenery, etc.  I wasn't as much of a nudist in those days.  It would have been fun to drive naked in a Mustang with the top down.  Carpe Diem.
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Re: Pulled over
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2017, 05:53:22 PM »
If you are interested in what Danís view may have looked like check it at this site.

Iíve been to the north rim, the less frequented one, and the views there are worth the drive. Iíve never been to Vulcanís Throne but Toroweap is one place I intend to visit.

The North Rim at Kaibab Trail is about 1300 ft. higher than Grand Canyon Village on the South Rim. which makes it a little cooler.

I can say that Dan is right about the amazing sights in Zion. Iíve been on many of the trails in the canyon and hike up the Narrows for a ways. I backpacked the West Rim Trail with my sonís Boy Scout Troop and Iíll always remember that.

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Re: Pulled over
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2017, 08:13:55 PM »
I've been to Zion too, back in the 1990s. My then-girlfriend and I did drive through the main valley of course, but we stopped in at the visitor center and asked for a backcountry permit for "the most remote site you have" and they gave us Bear Trap Canyon, which was a backpacking trip of several miles. We loved it!

Picture copied from a color slide, on a web page that I haven't visited in years:


It was chilly down there in the canyon (and it was September!) so nudity wasn't very tempting. Anyway, my naturist personality wasn't fully developed at that point.


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Re: Pulled over
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2017, 10:17:06 PM »
Since we're collecting Zion trips here's mine. Couldn't wait to get out of there, but next time I know where the back country is and will have a car that can get to it.
https://thefreerangenaturist.org/2016/01/26/utah-trip-i-a-trip-report/
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Re: Pulled over
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2017, 12:41:24 AM »
A great essay Jbee.   And beautiful photos, which just brought me back to great memories of my drive up the main Canyon road.    I reluctantly decided to pass on Antelope Canyon, it being the height of the tourist season.    Just not enough time in one trip.    I forgot the one lane tunnel on the Zion road in the park which was an amusing experience.     Driving through, one is teased by brief flashes of incredible views seen while zooming by "windows" that have been chiseled through the walls.    I also had a nice chat (for the moment naked under a tee shirt in my lap) with a pleasant and probably knowing  ranger who was regulating the traffic flow while waiting my turn to proceed.     Thank you for posting.   As you say, as incredible as Zion and Bryce are, I was also restless at times with the crowds, the interrupted nudism and deferred moments of spiritual awe of which you speak.    But I/we also caught the communal sense of wonder and discovery that occasionally transcends crowds which gather in places like this.   Our creator's extraordinary venues are just mightier than all of us.    Like you we finely had to get away and wander into areas off the beaten path, places that though not quite as majestic, were worth every bit of naked effort and trouble that we expended to reach, so to find the quiet and the spiritual oneness with this special part of our world that we had come seeking.

-Dan
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Re: Pulled over
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2017, 01:13:53 AM »
If you are interested in what Danís view may have looked like check it at this site.

Iíve been to the north rim, the less frequented one, and the views there are worth the drive. Iíve never been to Vulcanís Throne but Toroweap is one place I intend to visit.

The North Rim at Kaibab Trail is about 1300 ft. higher than Grand Canyon Village on the South Rim. which makes it a little cooler.

I can say that Dan is right about the amazing sights in Zion. Iíve been on many of the trails in the canyon and hike up the Narrows for a ways. I backpacked the West Rim Trail with my sonís Boy Scout Troop and Iíll always remember that.

Duane

Thank you Duane for posting both the video link and the wiki entry on Vulcan's throne.    Though neither words nor photos can capture the totality of being there.     The road that leads to the Toroweap Overlook crosses the long abandoned and now mostly dry reservoir mentioned in Frazer's 1914 account of his ascent.    He apparently also experienced about the same footing conditions as did I.     Milt, Mike, and I nude camped for a couple of nights at the Overlook Campground which consists of about eight unimproved campsites.   We used it as a base camp for exploring the Toroweap on foot and nude.    A high clearance 4x4 vehicle is highly recommended for transiting the last twenty miles of the access road.   And bring your own water and supplies.   Nothing there but inspiring views of the Canyon and  it's incredible sunsets and sunrises.

-Dan
   

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Re: Pulled over
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2017, 05:43:34 PM »
Jbee, I have had the same reaction while in Zion. It is an example of how a national park can get loved to death. Itís the problem of having to advertise the parks so people come in order to justify the federal budget expenses, yet the result is a park that is so busy it takes away from the natural experience you hope for. I understand that and know it is the way it will be for a long time.

The 1st time I went to Zion was in the mid Ď80ís. They hadnít implemented the shuttle system yet. It was busy but not as crowded as it is these days.

Itís also the same feelings I get here out at Red Rocks. Itís beautiful, but crowded. Tour buses, cars and motorcycles dump loads of exhaust that add to the noise and general reduction of a natural experience. I have to go into the back country to get away from that. Itís just sad to see compared to what I once experienced when I 1st moved here.

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