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Trip reports / New visit to an old site
« on: August 06, 2019, 06:54:33 AM »
Weíll we are in HOT! It was 113į on last Tuesday and the forecast for Wednesday was cooler with a possible afternoon shower. So I decided to go for it. I got up at 5:45 to get started and was able to got to the trail by 7:20. I had checked my records and the trail I chose I havenít been to in 3 yrs. I will be interesting to see what changes are there. I hope I will remember the landmarks for which tributary to walk in.

Driving out the Northshore Rd., north of Lake Mead, I could see a storm cell drenching the mountains across the lake. I could also see lightening strikes. The afternoon shower had decided to arrive early. Like Jbee, we are also in the monsoon season, although ours isnít as severe. Summer showers in the desert are wonderful. Breezy, cool and wet! The temperature had dropped almost 30į, from the previous day, into the high 80ís. Even with the humidity, it was perfect weather.

Because of the weather, there wasnít much traffic. It was promising that I wouldnít have any company on the trail. It was sprinkling when I pulled off the road. The storm cell was passing to the northeast over the trail I was headed for. I drove to the east to see what the conditions were farther down the road. After a couple miles I turned around to head back to the trailhead. Then I sat in the car for about 1/2 an hour till the storm cell moved on. I was ready to get out and go, but the problem was the lightening. I was seeing strikes 2 miles across the valley near where I would be hiking. Itís part of the monsoon experience, there is usually lightening along with it.

  • The view out the window of my car at the hike down to Calville Wash about 10 yrs. ago.
  • Looking back to the southwest where the storm is approaching the trail head.
  • Southeast where the leading edge has passed and moves away.
  • The road east toward Bitterspring Valley.

As the thunder receded to the east I got out and started down the trail. The road I was parked on is on a bajada and the outside turn is elevated toward the desert. This makes it so I can disrobe only 50-60 yds. from the road and be fairly certain no one will notice. The creosote is dense enough that I can do so without worry. But it is not surprising to see a topless man out on a hike, too close to the road a woman without a top on would be clearly visible to anyone passing. It would depend on her level of confidence. Although a little farther into the desert, the line of sight makes it easier to be topless, no matter your gender, and remain out of sight.

Walking naked in the rain out in the desert. Nothing can compare. I donít usually go out while itís raining unless I know that itís only rain. Not a thunderstorm. The forecast can mean light rain in one area and at the same time a flash flood occurs miles away in another. If the terrain allows, the flood can come barreling right down a wash in the light rain area without warning. So I was keeping an eye on the sky.

At this time of year the normal temperature at this time of day would be about 85, right about where it was when I got there. But with the overcast sky that is where it would be for a while. I was hoping for a cool day. Small drops on my skin and a light breeze made for a wonderful walk. I do like the sun on me on a hike but this time of year it would mean a shortened time out.

On the aerial image below the green line is the walk from the road to Calville Wash, the blue line. The yellow line is the wash into the east end of Bowl of Fire where I was headed.

When I get to Calville Wash I notice at the edges that the bed has dropped 12-18 inches since I was last here. Weíve had some intense storms out here. The report I posted a couple weeks ago about the cottonwood trees shows how powerful some flash floods are. Walking along I remember the features I was accustomed to spotting as references. Some changes, but mostly to do with a scouring flow in the floor of the wash.

I was walking slow, enjoying the weather and noting how many changes had occurred along the walls of the wash. One particular spot I remembered was where the wash runs across an edge of hard rock. I remembered crossing this with sand and gravel in between the features. Now there was a distinct change in elevation of about 1-1/2 ft. from the upstream to downstream side. A new pour over is slowly being formed.

The rain has stopped and I was spared the downpour that hit the south side of the lake on my drive out. The rain has cooled everything off without turning it all into a mud pit.

At about 2 miles in I climbed out of the wash to sit and relax in the desert. Here I spent bit just enjoying the sights out in this wilderness. The photos below of the landscape show the variety of the formations. There is shale, sandstone and in places hardrock like granite and marble. There are mineral deposits in the cracks of some of the sedimentary formations. I think it is gypsum.

We had a swarm of grasshoppers a couple weeks ago and they were constantly scattering as I made my way along the wash. It will make for some fat birds and lizards in the coming weeks. Since the direct sun is blocked the wash is cool and not radiating heat like normal and when I sit on a boulder or rock in the wash it isnít cooking my buns.

  • At the desert rest above the wash looking at the hills to the south
  • Mountains visible across the south of the valley
  • Looking to the east after the rain passed.
  • In the wash heading back out to the car. Itís still relatively cool.

After about 20-25 minutes I pick up my gear and head back into the wash. The temperature is slowly climbing and the clouds are breaking up in the east. It had stopped raining and the cool wind was blowing around me. Walking back out was an easy trip.

There arenít many opportunities in the summer to get out during the day. Too hot! I welcomed this chance to go out in the summer for a visit in-between the hot days. When I got back to Calville wash I stepped up on a large boulder to look out to the road. My truck was still there all alone. No one was headed my way.

  • The aerial of the site from GoogleEarth. About a 2 mile hike one way.
  • View of the site from the road to Calville Wash. Iím headed to where the shorter sandstone cliffs appear at the left below center.

As I walked out I could watch the traffic pass along the road. I was walking and most likely none of those driving saw me and if they did, there was no way at this distance they could see that I was naked. I walked to within 80-100 ft. of the car before I got dressed. If you zoom in on the aerial you will see the turn out where the green line hits the road. Maximum time naked about 2 hrs.

Today, it hit 115į. With all the problems that come bundled with a monsoon, hereís hoping for another rain or storm system that cools the desert off.


General Naturism Discussion / Long Time Gone
« on: July 09, 2019, 12:30:58 AM »
From: How was your month for Free Range
It has been a while since I have been out naked hiking or hanging about here. The past few days, Iíve been trying to catch up with what has transpired here and ran across Jbeeís mention that I had ďfamily mattersĒ. When I get caught up in things that I think are important, occasionally life will stand up in front of me and gently swat me across the head to get my attention. Family matters more than routine busywork.

As was mentioned, weíve had family issues (of several kind) the past couple years. Iíve not been keeping up on other things also. I havenít made any BEER since March of í17 and have had to subsist on store bought brew. Other priorities have asserted themselves. During the same period I hadnít been on one of my naked hikes for over a year. But things seem to be settling down a bit.

- In May of last year we spent 3 nights in Chaco Canyon and 2 nights at Grand Canyon. Wonderful
- camping and hiking, but no naked hiking.

- Last year on my way back from Denver, I stopped for a couple hours at OLT. That one event was it for
- naked hiking since late 2017, over 1 year and a half. So this year, trying to get back in the swing, I
- have been on 4 hikes since early May.

As a result of being out of shape and out of touch with the desert I decided to pick up where I left off. Last desert hike was in Nov. of í17 out near Lake Mead. With the summer heat already here I have to leave early. It can be 100į by 10:00 am.

In early May I took off for a desert hike. Since this was my 1st naked hike in over a year. I chose to not overdo it and walked in on about a 1.5 mile hike. Stayed on the upper end of the valley and did some bouldering. A nice and enjoyable hike.

3 weeks later I went back out to the same area for another outing. I walked about 2-1/2 miles into the valley and picked a spot to relax for a bit and enjoy the day. Walked back out for a 5 mile hike. Itís a gradual climb out except for one spot where the grade is about 13% for about 300 ft. My lack of endurance had me huffing and puffing at the top. The last 3/4 mile was an easy flat walk.

Awhile back, after a couple annoying incidents, I started putting everything from my pockets in the pack so I wouldnít lose it. When I got back to the car I do what I normally do, pull all my keys, billfold, phone etc. out of my back pack for the trip home. In the process I discovered that my phone was missing. Errmm!

Somewhere on the trail, on the 2-1/2 miles back to my car I lost my phone. I walked back in to the top of the hill, but didnít find it. The temperature was climbing so I headed back to the car and went home. Which prompted a return trip the next day. Mrs.E and I left early and went back to look for the wayward phone. When we got there another car was parked at the trailhead. I wasnít sure we would be alone on the trail so I stayed dressed. Turned out I missed an opportunity as we didnít run into anyone and the car was gone when we got back.

We found the escapee but the circumstances were odd. Usually I carry my GPS when I hike, just for information purposes. On these hikes Iím not where I can get lost, I just enjoy checking out the information on the hike. Well, the day I lost the phone I also had the GPS. At about the 1-1/2 mile mark I normally take a left turn off the trail into a wash to walk down into the valley. That was what I had done the day before. Coming back out, I rejoin the trail at the same spot.

We found the phone on the trail shortly after the turnoff. When we got home I downloaded the hikes off my GPS and was looking at the two dayís hikes. You could see the locations. How could my phone have ended up 100 ft. or so, south of where I turned off the trail. Weird, no? As John Lennon said, strange days indeed.

The day I was there with my wife, she, not knowing my routine, walked about 100 ft. past my normal turnoff. She walked up a slight hill and found my phone right in the middle of the trail. Curious. The day before, I had left the trail earlier, 100 ft. back up the trail. In all the times I have been there I have seen someone on the trail once but at a distance and only once had anyone come in behind me. But they didnít hike into the valley. This is a trail that is seldom used.

How did the phone end up on a part of the trail I hadnít been on? Curiouser. I now leave my phone in the car on my hikes. There is no cell reception out there anyway and itís that much less I have to carry.

On fatherís day I went out for an early morning walk of a couple miles. A solitary and silent hike.

10 days later I went out to a trail I hadnít been on in over two years. Boy, things happen! I saw major changes in the wash. The bed was very rough with larger rocks and stones scattered all over. Very little sand or silt. A large 4í high and about 6í across boulder, that hadnít been there before, was laying in the wash.

On my way in I was looking up ahead to find my landmark cottonwood trees. I didnít see them. They were gone! There had been a stand of 3-4 25í-30í cottonwood trees in the middle of the wash about 30í downstream of a 10-12í high pour-over. One of them was still there but had been uprooted and was laying on the ground. The others were piled up in a jumble about 150 yds. downstream. Clear evidence of a major flood in the wash. Would have been fun to watch. From a safe spot.

The desert changes, but very slowly. The exception is the monsoon season. We get about 4-1/4 in. of rain a year. So far this year we are over that amount. Yes we have a monsoon season but itís not like in other places. Itís just a period when we get the majority of our rain for the year. When it rains that much in a short period, changes happen fast. The soil is packed and doesnít absorb water very well. Most of it runs off into the wash. Iíve never witnessed a flood out there but gave seen the evidence of them afterward. Itís a reminder that nature can be as deadly as it is beautiful.

The area around those cottonwoods was one of the few true shady spots out there, and it was at a good place to stop and rest. Alas, no more. I wasnít disappointed though as the desert provides a excellent reminder of why I so enjoy this activity. Being somewhat out of shape was taking away from the hike as occasionally I needed to do a little climbing but it wasnít too bad. The quiet and warming landscape was relaxing as I stopped to catch my breath occasionally.

Small lizards scatter as I walk. Itís so quiet you can hear them as they run. They move so fast! The last time I was in this area I was amazed at the number of ant hills I saw. They were everywhere. They still seemed to be all over the place long columns of ants marching one-by-one.

The HOT is coming and itís necessary to get out earlier and earlier just to avoid it. But at least Iím back in it. Watching and waiting for cooler (relatively speaking) days to take advantage of.


General Naturism Discussion / An eloquent essay
« on: October 21, 2018, 11:29:33 PM »
A wonderful display of perseverance and hope.

We like to talk about body shaming and how bad it is mostly in regard to our preferred state of dress while hiking in suburbia or in the wilderness. This student states her case about body shaming clearly and places the responsibility right where it belongs. With the perps. She isnít talking about nudity or naturism. But the knee jerk reactions of a school board shows how much the general population has surrendered to the panicked screeching of bureaucrats curled into the fetal position. This isnít some activist bouncing up and down on the public square. Itís a girl in school in a controlled environment being held accountable for the actions of others.

Such determination from a young lady of 15. Is admirable. If you wonder how the repressive rules about nudity happen, this little 500+ word essay gives you a peek behind the curtains. Kids are indoctrinated by the school system, from kindergarten to university on all sorts of PC issues, not just nudity. After that, itís tougher to fix those perceptions.

Kinda creepy.


General Naturism Discussion / Weather
« on: September 29, 2018, 02:32:47 AM »

Looks like we are about to get some desert rain! Whoopee!
It appears Rosa is headed our way but I think the Sonoran is gonna get pounded.

We will probably get some of the northern rain bands up here.
We can sure use it.

Keep your pants rolled up. Oh, Wait! Never mind!


Trip reports / I Didnít Want to Leave
« on: September 11, 2018, 02:42:01 AM »
In August I was in Denver and was making the return trip alone. The quickest route home is I70 and I15, which Iíve done many times. So I decided to take a longer and more scenic route south through the San Luis Valley then west. At the northern end of the Valley is, Orient Land Trust. A couple others on the forum have been there, so I decided to stop to see the place and check it out. This would be my 1st visit to a CO facility.

Their website advised making an appointment so I booked my visit before I left Denver. I expected to be there just a couple of hours. I arrived after a 4 hr. drive, then went to sign in. The main office building looked like an old country store. Wooden steps up on a wooden porch to a screen door and a glass paned wood panel door.

After paying a day use fee, they gave me a token to open the gate. Along the drive I could see campsites scattered among the trees. They looked well shaded and didnít appear to be too close to each other.

I found a parking spot on a dusty lot near the main pool bath house. I rolled the window down and sat there reading the handouts from the office. One was a small site map for camping and hot springs. The other that was an explanation of their naturist policies. Clothing is completely optional no matter what. No pressure to be naked or dressed. Families including children are welcome. I was a single male and they made no comment. They even have a shed along the upper camp road called a ďsmoke hutĒ, for those that enjoy smoking certain leaf products. As long as itís legal, you can smoke it, but you have to do it in the hut (or your car).

All the buildings had the same basic rustic appearance. Not flashy at all. This place is intended for people that want to spend time as close to nature as possible and still have a few creature comforts. The restrooms and baths are all communal. Although the handouts said that there are a couple of cabins with private restrooms.

While I was reading, a car pulled up next to me and two women got out. They were discussing their plans. I think they were there for just a day visit also. Another woman walked up as they were talking. The driver opened the rear hatch and they all moved to the back of the van and proceeded to disrobe. Time for me to make the leap. I opened the door, got out and began to take off my clothes, leaving them on the seat. No safety net! The three women next to me were still standing naked at the back of the car talking and busy getting ready. After they finished, they each put on a body wrap, grabbed their stuff and off they went. ???

I went to a picnic table nearby under some trees, to get organized. I put my pack on the table and was back and forth to get my things out of the car. After I got ready I walked down to the bathroom at the end of the parking lot. The door was wide open. For ventilation? It was in fact a communal restroom. Facilities for men and women. I stood at urinal and could look out a clear window to my right and see outdoors just as easily as someone outside could see me, full height, standing there. To use the restroom yet be visible to anyone inside or out was weirdly unsettling and uhhh . . . energizing?

All this was new to me but I sort of liked it. I was feeling better, not only about my reactions but others as well. Wherever I walked, it felt ok. I saw teens, young adults, middle aged and elderly in all states of dress. No one seemed to care or notice that I was naked. If they did, I wasnít aware of it. There was one elderly woman wandering about in the parking area. All she had on was a pair of flip-flops with a towel over her shoulder. I guess she was waiting for someone and preferred to keep active instead of sitting. I felt I was among like minded folks. At least about the lack of clothes.

Because this was my 1st visit to a CO facility, I was a wondering a little about being naked among a large group of strangers. What would it be like? How would I react? How would they react? As I walked around, I discovered that not that many people were naked away from the hot springs. There were a few though, enough that I didnít feel like the odd man out. My 1st naked social hike a while back with my FRN forum friends, Jbee and DF from Tucson and Ken and Amy from Dewey had broken the ice for me on social nudity.

Most of the activity was around the hot spring pools, 10 for public use. I only saw a few people in the ponds wearing bathing suits. The younger people seemed to be less concerned about the nudity. And I did see young and old either fully or partially nude.

Because of limited time, I had decided to do the hike up to the old mining town. It is 1-1/4 mile hike up a jeep trail and over a 500 ft. elev. gain. As I was headed up, a woman, clothed, was walking back down the hill. Just a ďhelloĒ was the only exchange. I spent some time at the old mining town site and took some pictures, but no other visitors showed up. I pretty much had the whole place to my naked self.

The road to the mine and old town.

Walking out toward some the foundation ruins.

The gate in old town, go right to the tailings pile and left to the Bat Cave!
Holy Guano Batman!

A switchback to the upper part of the old town.

A view of San Luis Valley, southwest, from just above Meadow Pond.

Two deer I met on the road.

A panorama of the valley and the dirt road into the property.
Hwy 285, the one I was traveling on, is 7 miles across the
valley at the foot of the mountains on the far side.

The old town is at about 9,000 ft. and it was a cloudless day.  I was getting a great UV treatment from the sun. It was silent, peaceful at the ruins. The temps were perfect with a little breeze. So, after a bit, I headed back down to the main site. When I got back, I took a walk on a trail that circles the central area where the main hot pools are. I considered heading up to the top pools but I didnít have time, so I turned back toward my car. Most of the pools were occupied and busy with conversation.

Reading from the handout you learn that, OLT is a community trying to maintain a sustainable ecosystem that will have less of an impact on their mountain environment. They claim to be COMPLETELY off grid and are very up front about the fact that they are a fully clothing optional facility, with the emphasis on optional. No requirement either way. As part of their sustainability they just happen to have embraced the core principles of naturism. Essentially, that we are part of the natural environment, our clothes are not. It fits into the whole living within nature aspect of  their mission, I guess. It appears that they are trying to keep those values in the forefront of their effort to bring their ideas to the public. They are trying to maintain a small community where all are joined by that common thread. The clothing optional part is just a benefit. Very refreshing! Of course, at 9000 ft., you will need clothes at some point. The night temps were projected for the mid 40ís.

As I mentioned, it is a family oriented facility, I did see kids, toddlers and a couple of teens. The whole time, I remained naked. I took an idea of Jbeeís and began to jot down thoughts and ideas as I moved around. I believe that choosing to do the hike up to the old mining site helped. I was able to walk a 2-1/2 mile round trip, similar to what I am accustomed to here at home. By the time I got back down, I was more relaxed and at ease. I had begun to realize that most of the folks there were more like me than not. It was a new and uplifting experience for me.

I enjoyed the 3-1/2 hrs. I spent there. I wasnít camping, so I didnít have enough time to meet anyone or do much, and even though itís over 700 miles and a 13 hr. drive from home, I would like to go back and finish my visit.

I mean!! I didnít even have time to soak in a pool! Iíll have to go back.
I stayed naked until I pulled up, got out and dressed in front of the main office right before I left. I really didnít want to leave.

Jbeeís write-up on his website.
Bobís write-up on this forum.

General Naturism Discussion / Three Years and Going
« on: June 05, 2018, 07:18:00 PM »
The anniversary of our relocation here at FRN from TSNS is coming up in June. As I recall TSNS died on or about June 8 in 2015 and a couple days later we popped up here.

All I can say is we certainly were fortunate in having Karla and Stuart to look to for relief. They were welcoming and willing to accommodate a scraggly bunch of homeless naturists looking for a warm spot to sit.

Thank you Karla and Stuart.


General Naturism Discussion / The New Arizona Desert
« on: May 30, 2018, 12:06:54 AM »
Jbee, it looks like that philanthropist Bill Gates is about to be philanthropic to Arizona and invite another 190,000 people to live in the desert next door to Phoenix. I only heard about this recently, but apparently it was announced last year.

One article each from, the business side.

I was not surprised at the text in the article that states;
ďBelmont Partners said in a statement that the city "will transform a raw, blank slate into a purpose-built edge city built around a flexible infrastructure model."
This from a writer from an east coast metropolitan area. The mistaken belief that hot deserts are blank slates or worthless land is again at the root of more development plans to TRANSFORM the desert into a livable ďspaceĒ (I hate that word). The desert is actually alive as is and doesnít need a developer to improve it. It is the way it is because it has reached equilibrium. Something developers feel compelled to change.

There is a link at the end of the article that is interesting. Itís title, ďBill Gates and Steve Jobs raised their kids tech-free, and it should've been a red flag.Ē

The other article is one from, the other side.

The question that seldom gets asked, about the water resources, is at least mentioned here. This author is at least familiar with the specific issues in the desert southwest.

I only heard about this recently, but apparently it was announced last year. Have you heard anything about it?
Unfortunately for Arizonans, Gates has noticed Arizona as a prime site to do field testing for all the wonderful tech he has foisted on us and the new tech that is planned. Everything will be run by computers.

Maybe they should name the town Stepford instead of Belmont.


General Naturism Discussion / Naturism/Nudty on the rise in Paris
« on: May 06, 2018, 04:11:20 PM »
Is the nudity pendulum Paris headed back in the opposite direction?
There is a museum in Paris that held a visitation for nudists at the Palais du Tokyo.
Reminiscent of the one in Australia.

According to this article naturism in Paris is on the rise. I guess this is in the city proper. As opposed to a rural resort or a beach location.

Different than what you would expect, where people want to be in a secluded area.

Quote from: from article
ďNaturism is not a phase or fashion. It is a real urban need. We are no longer a minority. We are going to change habits and minds. 2018 is going to be the year of naturism.Ē
One could hope.


General Naturism Discussion / the Irish Have One Now (officially)
« on: May 06, 2018, 04:08:28 PM »
Apparently Ireland now has Itís 1st legal nude beach, Hawk Cliff. The photo in the article looks nice until you look at itís location in Google Earth (see .kmz file below). It looks precarious and rocky, but without a good set of photos itís hard to tell.

As usual ďIreland amended its law regarding public nudity so it's only an offense if someone is "intending to cause fear, distress or alarm", whatever that means. How does you prove intent until they actually do something?

Is a puzzlement!


General Naturism Discussion / New(d) Dining Trends
« on: March 22, 2018, 07:25:38 PM »
I was thinking the other day, so I took an aspirin, about whether that restaurant in London that was catering to the nude diner was still in business. When I logged on here I noticed Bob had updated that topic already, but I went ahead to post this one separate.

So I did a search for ďnaturist diningĒ to see if any new ones had popped up. Among the results I found this article on Forbes from about 18 months ago about the proliferation of new "nudie foodie" establishments.

There are many restaurants that are in nudist/naturist resorts, so I donít count those. I was wondering how many were stand alone businesses that have to survive in a real market where they have to sell their brand to the public.

There was the 1st one that Bob posted on this site about a couple years ago about one in London, The Bunyadi.

Another regular here, Peter (pjcomp), alerted us in that topic to a place in Tokyo, The Amrita, which began itís effort in a blatant attempt to create an exclusive place only for the beautiful people to dine in a decidedly erotic atmosphere that had nothing to do with natursm. The Forbes article mentions this one and that it has modified itís Ďrequirementsí to enter to allow Ďnormalí people to come in. It's also not clear whether they are still in business.

And then there is the most recent one Bob posted about, in Bristol, The Greenbank.
In Milan there is, LíItalo Americano.
And in Melbourne Jo & Lehmoís Nude Food.
With two articles about a Paris eatery, Oínaturel, on a news site.
I use the term lightly as there are no news organizations extant, with another mention on a travel site.

The Paris spot is in the same arrondissement as the "Bois de Vincennes Park" which recently set aside an area for nudists to legally spend time exploring the park dressed appropriately. I seem to remember this showing up here a while back.

So we have places in London, Melbourne, Paris, Milan and Tokyo. I am not aware of one here in America. I did run across mention of nudist clubs and organizations here that will rent a facility for an event, but nothing yet about a stand alone nude/naturist dining establishment. The score now is to the UK, 2 up. Weíll see how long they last.

So the upshot is that there seems to be a trend toward catering to that, I realize itís limited, market. From reading those articles there is always an initial reaction of a giddy excitement about the whole nudity aspect which seems to taper off. Those that attend for the thrill of it, fall away leaving the patrons that are accustomed to social nudity to try to keep the ball rolling. Hopefully those that give it a try will come back after the 1st blush ;) to continue the new experience.

One reporter commented that he didnít see the point of it or that it didnít make a real impression on him that dining in the nude would be a unique experience. Expecting a unique experience, without considering the fare available, puts most of the burden on the nude aspect to bring a pleasant response to people that are already uneasy about being out in public with no clothes on. Most likely many will not be repeat customers.

Overall though, I think the fact of normal people going to an establishment for a normal (to them) evening that happens to include being naked around others will only help get rid of obsessions on appearance and fashion.


General Naturism Discussion / 1st day of Spring
« on: March 20, 2018, 10:00:54 PM »
Well, today is the Vernal Equinox. I need to get up and get out.

We've been working on yard projects all winter and I have had enough of the manual labor for a while.

Supposed to rain tomorrow. Timing is all.


Suggestions / Comments
« on: March 14, 2018, 06:55:41 PM »
This isn't a suggestion but a comment.

The site just rolled over to post #10,000.  I guess that would be a milestone of sorts.

This forum seems to be becoming more well known.


General Naturism Discussion / Philly WNBR
« on: August 30, 2017, 12:50:22 AM »
The Philadelphia World Naked Bike Ride is coming up. Anybody in the area planning to attend?

At least they wait till the end of summer.


General Naturism Discussion / Naturist weather
« on: August 25, 2017, 08:38:15 PM »
I hope everyone in points north and east of Corpus Christi (Hymie, Larry and Safebare to mention a few) are set and ready for Hurricane Harvey. Boats and property secured and RFF.

Should be making landfall Saturday morning.
Be safe.


Trip reports / In Spite of the Heat
« on: July 14, 2017, 01:36:47 AM »
It rained last Monday for about 20 min. Not hard. The 1st rain since the end of Feb. It was just enough to coat everything and cool it down about 10ļ. It didnít get very humid from the rain as the beginning humidity was only about 2%. And the forecast for Tuesday was only 106ļ so I decided to get out and do an early hike. It was close to 90ļ and cloudy when I walked out to the trail at 7:00 am, but a slight breeze made it pleasant. It was a little hazy off on the horizons when I got there but it burned off fast as it warmed up. Since there is no shade and the nearest water is a 3-1/2 mile hike, my intent was to try and be out of there by 10:00 am.

I put my Vibrams on in the car and headed out into the eastern end of the valley. I decided to stay up on the hills and not go down to the valley floor. I knew I wouldnít be there long so I was just wandering around looking at the landscape.

We had a wet winter and all over the slopes and tops of the hills there are small red cactus popping up. I think they are cholla. I donít remember ever seeing this many. They are everywhere. If they all survive, itíll be a cholla forest. I headed up some small hills toward the valley trying to avoid the little cactus sprouts everywhere. I am discovering that the Vibrams do not do well in a prickly environment. The cloth sides do not stop the cholla so I had to stop once or twice to pull the pricklys out.

The low hills near the trailhead

Walking in the desert is a challenge. Everything has a defense against being eaten or stepped on. In the summer, add to that the heat and walking up even a slight hill is a good workout. I have hiked here before when the temps were in the low hundreds.

Low hills terrainSmall cactiSmall cacti area shot

The little chollas are a kind of magenta color and very dark. They add a random pattern of dots, a scattering of color in a gray and brown landscape. As I walked up on the top I headed toward the valley. The desert surface was hard-packed and easy to move on, except for the cactus buds that I had to keep avoiding. I wanted to go to the red sandstone cliffs at the head of the valley and spend some time there. Thatís up a little higher and you have a good 360ļ view.

Mormon Tea on the rocksOn the outcrop looking northMore of the little chollas

I had to get a picture of The Mormon Tea in the middle of the sandstone. As many times as I have seen plants, not only growing but thriving, in the middle of a rock or stone, it always amazes me when I see one. I am compelled to take the picture. Life manages to grab a hold in the most unlikely places. They are more easily seen in the desert or mountainous regions.

To get to cliffs I had to cross a large ravine. Before that I had to find a nice size rock to sit on to get the thorns out of my Vibrams. I didnít want to sit on the ground with all the chollas around. As I walk it is as quiet as I expected, except for the air traffic. After a while I stop hearing them and they just fade into the background. I grew up in the south so I am used to tuning out the drone of background noise.

At the ravine. Go through or around?

After crossing the ravine I head up to the top of the ridge where the cliffs are. The clouds and haze are gone and the sun is right in front of me. I find a perfect spot to sit and lay back for a bit. It is warming up and I can enjoy the heat as it soaks in.

On the cliffs looking westWalking along the cliff edgeYet another mylar balloon

I had found one of those balloons on a previous hike, from this post. I picked up this one on the way back to the car. We always carry plastic bags to pick up trash we find. Old habit from Scouts.

I managed to get some pics even though I forgot my little pocket tripod. I had to get inventive using the top of my pack and rocks. There are no trees to wedge it into or fence posts to prop the camera on so some of the pictures are slightly tilted.

The 5 toes work very well on an established trail, but in places I had to walk across areas of sharp rocks slightly smaller than ping pong balls. Sharp edges of limestone or shale made me wish I had worn something more durable. The prickly little chollas also were a bother, but there were just so many of them.
Next time Iíll wear my Vibramsís only if I will be on smoother surfaces.

I got in my car at 10:05 am and the temp was 98ļ. Right time, right temperature. What heat?


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