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Trip reports / Re: Grand Delmas
« Last post by jbeegoode on May 12, 2021, 02:50:10 AM »
Observant goats. Fun Pic.
Trip reports / Grand Delmas
« Last post by jmf on May 10, 2021, 11:14:03 PM »
A new post on my blog:
Trip reports / Up the Newer Miller Canyon Trail
« Last post by jbeegoode on May 10, 2021, 09:43:13 AM »

Last year at this time, we are into our fourth day in the Huachuca Mountains on the Miller Canyon's new trail.


Free Range Naturism / Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Last post by jbeegoode on May 07, 2021, 09:31:44 PM »
We were at the hot springs, no gardening. But, I've got three new trees to plant and made arrangements on that day for a free fig tree to join the white mulberry fruiting trees and the San Pedro cactus. which I found a place for. I'm into an edible thing, although that gets into useful and permaculture desert stuff. I'll be planting different sages to color, fragrance and green this place up. Jajoba gives food. Some napalote and local prickly pear will fit outside the wall. I've got two saguaro, but they are just tiny tykes that will need a couple of more decades to flower and bud. I've let some edible weeds have a place, like mustard.
Free Range Naturism / Re: The Secret Naturist Handbook
« Last post by jbeegoode on May 07, 2021, 09:08:54 PM »
So, true Bob.
It is also a disservice to ones own self concept to enforce. or succumb to oppressive, unhealthy body concepts by being a part of the dominate culture's game. I have discovered that I can't be a free natural human being, until I can deal with nature and spirituality in nature's terms. Some of that is to shake off the knee jerk ingrained inside of me.

It is different to be aware of and accept that something is off. Part of this may be being naked in a situation that is risky, or risky because of legality. There can be consequences to minding ones own's business when naked in a public place.  When hiding, this makes a secret naturist aware of the imposed game's affect on themselves. For example, the tingly feelings when nude and out of the cage.

This also, creates a way to rebel. This encourages them to be more free range, perhaps more bold, or discover that much of their fears are not justified. So, personally, I think secret naturism has its place. Many of us here have evolved from a secret naturist beginnings. It may be that others need to catch up.

Secret naturism can be a fun game. In the 1980's, when i would instigate stealth excursions into the neighborhood late at night, the idea had little to do with liberation, or being naked. It was about stealth, awareness, risk, getting a rush, playing a game, so to speak. We did it for kicks. We had the perceived extreme risks, the chances, the figuring of odds, the stealth tactics, and the goal to get further, winning the game.

So, yes, the goal is to get liberated from textile "trappings" the addicting, not green, the basis for many unhealthy societal games, to make clothing unnecessary except for comfort, perhaps ritual. To just be able to choose to be naturally nude without hassle. I'm also saying take their artificial game and have some fun with it, when you are in the mood, that is okay, too.

It was gratifying that two young women voiced appreciation to DF in particular for encouraging them by our example. All we do is stay in naked enjoyment around clothed people at the hot springs. We don't get dressed when we get out of the water, we act just like them only without clothing. We walk, lounge, socialize and use the community kitchen nude. Not so secret at all. But do we need to be in a social activist role all the time?

It is not just about social revolution, but finding practical ways to expand boundaries, to explore perceived restricted places as potential liberation, but still being practical. Bob, you have a woods and I have a tall wall for privacy, but you'll see if you can mow the weeds out front and get the mail. Me I have learned that I can stand in my driveway, greeting and sending off guests, without much chance of bad consequence. I'm always doing that kind of stretching. It sometimes gives that element of confronting fear, after all don't people read books and see scary movies? Don't we all need to reconcile personal psychological shadows? My website has a great deal to do with staying naked legally, in-spite of being in a place where bodies are illegal, or freedoms preyed upon by sick people. To mind our own business nude comfortably, free ranging. So, some stealth in some places keeps me naked.

Hiding isn't always a mouse in a hole, it can be an underground resistance, a reconnoiter, a getting feet wet. Then sometimes the underground throws out a banner that embarrasses those in power, or encourages the truth at a public gathering.

Sometime, I just want to not be hassled by concerns of my nudity, so I don't let on, I hide it. I'll choose the time and place for my battles. I choose not to be wrapped up in full time activism, but I choose to be as nearly full time nude as I can. I'm pretty much just sayin' there's a time and place for fun and games, for whatever reason.

Rambling on, I listened and watched the traffic and foot traffic at my new house. I sat and watched the lights, where they shined, sat quietly naked in the front yard, looking over angles of sight. I watched where people looked when they passed. I noted the time. I stood clothed and walked around the neighborhood to see what others could see of my property. I noticed the frequency of the neighbor in my backyard, what they could see and put up line of sight barriers and turned off certain lights. I learned that my window screens protected me from view in most light. I positioned my old van to hide me from the passersby. I learned what I needed. I'm two blocks from a major police station the size of a big box store. That's secret naturism and free range.

Then, I built a 6 foot plus wall around the property making a clear message, what I do on my property ain't nobody's business but my own. The driveway isn't enclosed, but I know how to use it nude, day and night. If anyone asks, I'll tell them, we like to be nude and safe, call first. The rest is obvious. The wall was plan A. That's my sanctuary and my friend's, a chosen safe place, not so much penned up. When I go out, it is a different environment.

I'd like to wave my naturist flag high and have people join under that banner. But, I have to be careful whether I'm dressed, or in the best place to do any such thing.

I also share your point that the result of hiding is "outlawed, arrested, and shunned as some kind of freaks" but there have been some legal changes, and labeled or shunned as "freaks" is only in small pockets and "curiosities" seems more prevalent. Getting out there, speaking up, has made a difference. Peoples predilection toward body curiosity, being naturist, yet latent, pushes the social changes on.

It occurred to me, that in my personal experience, many more people have stripped off with me than have complained over all of the years. Sure location and circumstance have had something to do with that, BUT!.... ;)

Free Range Naturism / Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Last post by Bob Knows on May 07, 2021, 02:06:17 PM »
And World Naked Gardening Day (May1) in our locale was cold, windy and occasional showers although some sun but not enough to be other than very uncomfortable. 

Yes, the weather is variable everywhere. May 1 was cold and windy here too, but its been warmer later in the week.  On Wednesday I was out cutting firewood naked near the public road, with a loud chain saw to attract attention.  Very beautiful day.  Bucked up and loaded two trees that had fallen during winter storms.  Late spring is often beautiful weather but you have to pick your day according to local conditions. 
Free Range Naturism / Re: The Secret Naturist Handbook
« Last post by Bob Knows on May 07, 2021, 02:01:09 PM »
The whole question of hiding from other people should not be a given, especially in the UK, Kansas, Spain, and other places where being naked is legal as long as you aren't intentionally trying to disturb other people.  Hiding our bodies when we meet other people reinforces our training that somehow what we are doing is "wrong" or "bad."  A better approach is to act as if being naked is a normal every day choice.  When we act normal, continue on our way and give a friendly greeting to textile people we pass on a trail, we will almost always be accepted as normal. Some clothed people, from seeing how comfortable we are, will wonder if they are doing it wrong.  Occasionally one will take off his or her clothes to join our comfort.   Rarely, only rarely, someone will make a crass comment, but that is usually from their own insecurity about their own body.

If we are seen hiding, or apologize for being naked and rapidly cover up, we display the message that our nude behavior is somehow "wrong," we know its wrong, and we are ashamed of ourselves.  That is the wrong message that nudist organizations presented for the whole 20th century, and it resulted in nudists being outlawed, arrested, and shunned as some kind of freaks.  More recently, and particularly on Internet, many of us have become unashamed.  Some national nudist federations have promoted nudism, a choice not to buy and wear textiles, as a fundamental right and freedom, notably in US and Spain.. In other places the nude resort industry still depends on nude being generally illegal so we don't yet have backing from nudist federations, but most of the younger nudists are posing on Internet and out naked in nature. 

We do ourselves and nude freedom a disservice when we hide or apologize for our beautiful human bodies.  Secret naturism is counterproductive to nude acceptance and nude freedom.  Just saying. 
Free Range Naturism / Re: The Secret Naturist Handbook
« Last post by nuduke on May 06, 2021, 11:29:58 PM »
I have also studied a little the way we perceive things that relates to our ancient origins in the course of my work some years ago so I can relate to what Bob and Jbee write very clearly.  It seems a little beyond your 'peripheral vision' to note also that people may indeed be aware of you naked on the trail  but simply choose to avoid looking at you! :D
Free Range Naturism / Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Last post by nuduke on May 06, 2021, 11:24:40 PM »
And World Naked Gardening Day (May1) in our locale was cold, windy and occasional showers although some sun but not enough to be other than very uncomfortable. 
Free Range Naturism / Re: The Secret Naturist Handbook
« Last post by Bob Knows on May 06, 2021, 05:51:30 PM »
Many people aren't paying much attention to what is around them.
One of the main reasons people get lost is because they didn't bother to look around and see where they walked, and never looked back to see what it looks like from the other direction.  Then when they decide to head home, they have no idea where they are, and no idea what the path going home looks like. 

Stationary objects are often not seen, even if an animal (or person) looks right at us. 
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