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jbeegoode

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Nude in Milky Way
« on: August 27, 2014, 11:30:27 PM »
Iím not a photographer first. My interest has waned, but not disappeared over the years. My big bag of Nikormat equipment has been collecting dust. We always carry digital cameras with us on our freerange excursions. Our efforts are sometimes for art and sometimes we get lucky.  We publish photos mostly, just to record the moment to augment  memory and I usually publish some to help explain the experience when writing reports, on The Secret naturist Society site and occasionally here. It is however, fun to get something more than a tourist picture out of a camera.
Stuart and Karla have been gracing us with some real gems. I would like to see what came of the 2013 Alpine adventure and many more, as well as the art and craft that is displayed.


Stuart commented about the Milky Way in the most recent post. It is a trick to photograph it.  The September 2014 issue of Outdoor Photographer has an article as to how best to do this, with some impressive shots.
It occurred to me while reading your report from the Alps, that Iíve seen photos of these stars, but never someone in the picture with them. How to get that into an exposure? It would give quite a celestial air to the model.
Anybody up for it? The winter cold is nearing, although the article stated the best times are in the Fall and especially spring. It would probably be something for next year, unless maybe in the southern hemisphere.

The tips are as follows:

Sagittarius is the most photogenic area. Carinasoft.com has something downloadable to tell exact positions and times of celestial objects.

Away from city lights, ie. Alps, American Southwest, astronomical dusk and dawn, or before and after these.
Clear and moonless

Shoot as high in the sky as possible

Landscapes like snow peaks and lake reflections add to the shot.

The depth of field is shallow with the aperature so wide as is needed, so it is difficult to grab anything in the foreground closer than 20 or 30 feet. I ask, that this would challenge to nude part of the composition and will it be silhouette? Also, how long can one stay still?

Lots of test shots

A good starting point for exposure is 30 seconds. There within the article is actually a chart showing what to expect at different exposures. The stars will streak if it isnít correct.

Shooting when the moon is 15 to 30 degrees illuminated will get more land, but the tradeoff is less of the stars.
The spring is the best time to shoot Milly Way for various reasons.

Here is another resource on line: http://www.lonelyspeck.com/how-to-make-an-amazing-photo-of-the-milky-way-galaxy/


Looking around the web, there are only figures in silhouette, the true ďstarĒ of the shot is the Milky Way. A figure worshiping would probably be a first. Heck, might make someone famous. Or respected. It appears to me that it would be well earned respect. Anyway, there are some serious photographers on this site and Iíd like to see naturism positively portrayed in an exceptional photo. I thought that I might spark interest, or a race. Iíll probably find some way to play with this, but then again, Iím not a photographer first.

What do you think?
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Re: Nude in Milky Way
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2014, 06:05:05 PM »
We've done some experiments with a view to doing this kind of photo as well, although we've never actually managed the actual shot. One thing I've considered is firing a flash from another camera during the exposure. We've done a few tests to try and determine the best distance between the model and the flash, but that was a while ago and we'd probably start again.

Long exposures though are a toss up between landscape and sky. Any exposure of any length will start to experience motion and without moving the camera to match the movement of the earth you won't get a clear image of the sky. Move the camera and the ground is blurred. Personally I want to get a good star trails photo with a nude, a nice long exposure of maybe a few hours, with the model walking into the shot at some point and then using the flash trick I mentioned above.

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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2014, 07:42:30 PM »
I just wrote it off as probably washing out the dark skies, I'm surprised at your results. Where did the flash come from, directly or off to the side? I'm now imagining using a focused source, like a a quick flashlight beam for an effect. Neet.
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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2014, 08:39:20 PM »
There are 3 ways to get a shot of the night sky.

Use a tripod, you will get star trails on long exposures

Mount the camera on a telescope that is polar aligned, you would have to have a good telescope that tracks smoothly.  Can be expensive.

Use a camera mount tracker on a tripod, it's a motor driven mount for cameras that can be polar aligned.  I've seen one advertised for $350-$450 in my astronomy mags at:

http://ioptron.com/index.cfm?select=productdetails&phid=cffad01a-797c-4cf4-beb8-a64bc8e09b06

You could probably find it cheaper at one of the discount camera websites like BH Photo or Adorama, or maybe a used one online.  I also remember seeing articles, years ago in either Sky & Telescope or Astronomy, on how to build one from scratch.  I guess it depends on how much effort you want to put into it.

I've seen night shots of the type Stuart is describing.  You do the time exposure and then right before you end it you put the person in and hit the fire button on your flash, trying not to send any direct light into the camera.  Only reflected light if possible and not to close.  You would have this amazingly bright naked body detracting from the picture of the Milky Way.

Do several shots at different brightnesses and distances.  Otherwise you could just have a silhouette.

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Re: Nude in Milky Way
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2016, 09:55:01 PM »
I just stand ....and wonder!

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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2016, 05:21:13 PM »
Lying down in awe works for me, too. Human brain tends to want to sort them out, looking for familiarity, imagining coherence like constellations and astrology and how and why. It often gets in the way. A Milky Way is great at face value...awe... POP! A falling star enters. I saw one with colors the other night. I wondered if it was someones fireworks...a satellite...so beautiful....
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2017, 05:01:36 PM »
Not much activity today!
Jbee's comment got me wondering.

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Lying down in awe works for me, too. Human brain tends to want to sort them out, looking for familiarity, imagining coherence like constellations and astrology and how and why.
We all want to see patterns and order so that it makes sense. Once having seen a pattern (constellation), we try to explain why (astrology) the pattern is there. Astronomy, though is the real way to figure all this out.

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A Milky Way is great at face value...awe... POP! A falling star enters. I saw one with colors the other night. I wondered if it was someones fireworks...a satellite...so beautiful....
In my more active days in the astronomy club I have seen fireballs. The minerals in the rock and the speed of the meteor causes different colors. I saw a very large one once out in the desert south of here. The larger the stone the longer it lasts. For a meteor, this one lasted a long time and it started breaking up. Initially it was bright white.

As it traveled, different shades of blue appeared as it broke apart and the interior was exposed to the heat. It was amazing and beautiful. Smaller pieces made their own trails. Of course none of us in the group were prepared, so the only image exists in the brains of those that saw it.

If you want to try seeing them or even catching them on a camera, see "2017 meteor showers" here;
http://earthsky.org/astronomy-essentials/earthskys-meteor-shower-guide
and here
http://earthsky.org/space/spring-is-fireball-season

I used to lay flat on a reclining lawn chair with a pair of wide field binoculars and just stare up. When I saw something interesting I looked with the binocs. You can do astronomy with some very cheap equipment.

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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2017, 05:25:57 PM »
FIREBALL's! Coming to a universe near me! Should be under the stars this weekend. This site is a great bookmark. I didn't know about Aprils.

Remember Fireball XL5?
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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2017, 05:51:22 PM »
Wow!  :D

There's a blast from the past. The Space Patrol!
I had forgot that early morning kid show.

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« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2017, 08:37:26 PM »
I spent the weekend at a friend's Bhakt fest this weekend. It was clothed Saturday, when this happened, do to the Hindu influence, less enlightened people were there and we didn't want to scare them off.  ::) I also didn't want to confuse people that I relate to in one way regularly with my proclivities of naturism.

The sky is dark there, no moon and so many stars. It is out near Kit Peak Observatory. As I wandered along, a bright fireball seemed to causally float across the sky above one of the stages, two or three seconds. Its duration was amazing. It moved more the speed of a shooting firework as it floats to its peak before exploding.

For the record. We did have a couple of hours naked during our sweat before the equinox celebration/ritual. At an unusually high 95F, dress was very thin for most participants. Although I wore supper light east Indian clothing, it felt great to get out of the clothing that I wore. Coming out of the sweat dripping, the very light breeze was wonderfully refreshing. It was very hard for most of us to put the costumes back on, when the lull in traffic ended and more people began to show up.
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2017, 07:32:07 AM »
Were you walking nude at Kitt Peak at night? I've been out nude on a hike at night in he desert.

It is something special. Not only do you see the huge expanse of the desert that you are in the middle of, but you also see the enormous universe right in front of you!

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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2017, 10:23:26 PM »
Near Kitt Peak, a Bhakti festival. I was just re-dressed and heading to my car to leave...as I remember.

Most of my nude desert night walks are done under full moon light. Snake concerns. Just out of my dooor I have the Milky Way. I go and sit, or lay outside to sleep.
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