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jbeegoode

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Re: The Secret Naturist Handbook
« Reply #300 on: April 07, 2020, 08:50:56 PM »
The only thing ancient around here is the Indian ruins. They are all remote, or touristy and blocked off at night and regulated by volunteers during the day. The best remote ones are a hike. We like to project what it was like in ancient times, a participatory experiment in history is to dress more like the ancients around here, nude, to get a feel for it.

Everything is better nude, including exploring the ancient. We come across old foundations, but these are more pioneer oriented. The early settlements of the 1700's are all gone, except the churches and some of their complexes. There were just a few of those and they were destroyed a they grew and cities took shape. We both enjoy archeology, the books the mags, the websites.

Walking around in an old castle nude, with concerns that someone might happen by, is closer to the fear that people must have felt to have built such places. Parapets, and all sorts of hiding protections were built in to them, and so could be used to stealthily sneak around a castle nude.

There is much debris and critter habitat in those old places, that make them unsafe. I am often more concerned about those dangers than caught in nudity.

We about got caught in an old homestead one time. Ran, really out of breath ran, back to camp to get dressed when the cleanup crew suddenly showed up.

Yea, that seems fun.
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« Reply #301 on: April 18, 2020, 01:05:23 AM »
Beaches: From The Secret Naturist Handbook

When looking for locations to practice a spot of secret naturism, one of the most obvious places to visit are naturist beaches. With the association of mainstream naturism with beaches, this might seem like a good idea, however, I am personally not a favour of naturist beaches for secret naturist use mainly because you tend to get too many people there, either other naturists or people ogling at them. It just not very secret, is it?

But beaches and dune areas are not to be disregarded entirely for the secret naturist. As with most types of location if you visit at the right time of day, or night for that matter, you may find suitable opportunities for a spot of covert nudity. The main problem with beaches is their popularity and unless you can find a beach where access is generally difficult or a beach is in a remote location, it can often be difficult to achieve safe nudity.

Around my local Edinburgh patch there are a number of beaches located along the Lothian coast, many of which at first glance might seem suitable for nudity. However, on closer inspection finding a suitable opportunity for nudity is not easy, mainly due to the ease of access for visitors and the close proximity of towns, villages and caravan and camping sites. In fact, to date, I have only undertaken a single secret naturist outing to a beach, that at Aberlady Bay, and then only under the cover of darkness. On the good side, having recently moved near Edinburgh and with easier opportunities to actually get to these beaches, future secret naturist adventures might be more practical.

So, you want to plan a secret naturist visit to a beach, what should you be looking out for? Well, planning your outing at a beach is much like any other type of habitat. You need to ascertain when you are likely to be able to strip off safely, by safely, I refer to being naked and not being seen. If you are lucky and perhaps the beach is little used or remote, you may be able to strip naked just about anytime, although you will more than likely have to go there during secret naturist times such as early morning, late evening and at night.

On your initial visit, there are a number of things to need to look out for. For example, where will you access and exit the beach, where will you be likely to encounter people suddenly, what are your options should you be unlucky enough to have a hostile encounter and so on. The location and direction of footpaths, dwellings, car parks, potential escape routes and hiding places should all be noted. If planning to explore without clothing and footwear, you need to find suitable locations for hiding your clothing and also for leaving backup clothing. All the factors that would be considered for other habitats also apply to beaches and dunes.

Beaches and dunes are not without their hazards for the secret naturist. Care needs to be taken when walking barefoot as all manner of debris can lurk hidden in the sand. Incoming tides present a risk of being stranded at some locations and a check of the tide times before your visit can be useful.
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« Reply #302 on: April 18, 2020, 01:16:53 AM »
Small bundle tied to the wrist. Jump in the waves, put it on, or jump into the waves pull it off.

Beaches at night can be dangerous to feet, the waters in warm places have dangerous fish in the shallows at night. The moon phase and position plays a key role. It is hard to see and people have popped up surprising me. I can't hear above the waves.

Lakes are different, quiet, often private, but nice popular places to hang out at and so others around.

Both require a great deal of caution.

I of course always think about getting naked at any beach, it is just a natural and compelling pattern of thought. I like the tranquility, and sneaking around naked is antithesis to that. The deeper into the night and the quieter, the safer and more relaxed.

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« Reply #303 on: April 18, 2020, 10:13:11 AM »
in uk its often possible to find a rural  coastal beach, not overlooked by houses, usually a few minutes walk from a carpark,  that is generally only visited by anglers , passing ramblers and dog walkers  with the occasional twitcher (bird watcher),   generally a spot of nudity causes no problems .
weekends and school holidays they get busier and perhaps not so nude tolerant.

ame is true in parts of europe.

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« Reply #304 on: April 20, 2020, 12:21:43 AM »
With the current state of the law in the UK, I would have thought that it's not necessary to find a really isolated section of beach for naturism. I'm not suggesting that it's a good idea to strip off on a town beach, right in front of the prom where the ornamental clock is! But you might do it out near the end of the beach where the crowd thins out, or on some beach away from a town where there could be some visitors. Hopefully people wouldn't be offended as long as you weren't in their personal space--or have I got that wrong? I'd be interested to hear what British Naturism has to say about nudity on beaches.

You'll probably respond that this is easy to say when one doesn't live in the UK!

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« Reply #305 on: April 20, 2020, 10:14:45 AM »
As always there’s the law as written in statute, and there’s the law as in what society expects of each other. The famous British queue is nowhere enshrined in statute, but queue jumping is considered the worst social crime against one’s fellow citizens. By the same token, while public nudity is permissible it would still fail the social acceptability test in the more public places. The far end of a beach would probably be acceptable, as long as the police didn’t stop one from walking that far! It is unlikely anyone else there would notice or object or be concerned to display their ignorance of statute law - the virus has given most people something more to worry about.
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« Reply #306 on: April 20, 2020, 10:16:02 AM »
yes john p thats pretty much what i was saying,  its just the degree of isolation required that down to personal decision ,  or how quiet does it have to be to not get earache from the wife  :).   

for me its an evolution over time from secret naturist into free range,   wives tent to worry more about what other people think and hence are slower to evolve. 

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« Reply #307 on: April 20, 2020, 01:03:15 PM »
Couldn't have put it better if I tried, ric!
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« Reply #308 on: April 23, 2020, 09:40:39 AM »
Caves: From The Secret Naturist Handbook

Ever on the lookout for a new secret naturist challenge, I came upon the idea of exploring an old railway tunnel near Neidpath Castle, just outside Peebles in the Scottish Borders. The tunnel had been closed for almost 50 years and runs for a mile or so along side the river Tweed. After some planning I was able to walk both ways along the full length of the tunnel while naked and what an experience it was! From this point on I started actively looking for other underground features, such as caves and mines, that I could explore in secret naturist fashion.

What makes exploring underground while naked such a thrilling experience is probably the thrill of being naked is such an unusual environment. The air is also usually cool and this highlights the fact that you are naked.

You can find all manner of underground locations suitable for the adventurous secret naturist. For example, I've explored a complex of three underground mines, an underground burial chamber dating back to the Bronze Age and the railway tunnel mentioned above. Of course, there are other such features as well including covered streams. These are streams that have been built over in urban areas. You might also seek out underground bunkers, old basements, caves and mines. I have even on occasion explored an underground quarry without even carrying clothing and that was possibly the ultimate secret naturist experience!

It goes without saying that safety is an issue here and some of the places I've been are no doubt highly dangerous, with potential rock falls and other underground hazards. To be honest I would not advise you to actually do anything on this page. However, personally, I think that this activity is no more dangerous that crossing the road, you just have to make sure nothing untoward happens.

When exploring underground the first thing you need to do is to carry out a full and complete reccy of the location, to determine if nudity is actually possible. You also need to determine what safety issues you might face. Is there a possibility of getting lost or trapped by floodwater? Ask yourself these and similar questions. And always leave a note with someone stating where you are going. Best not to mention you are going to be naked though!

When choosing an underground location for secret nudity, I limit my choices to locations where I am able to walk comfortably and where climbing equipment is not required. Anything beyond that is a big no-no! As far as equipment is concerned, the only items specific to this environment are a couple of torches and possibly a compass to note direction. Make sure you have fresh batteries and keep one torch as a backup just in case you drop one and it breaks.

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« Reply #309 on: April 23, 2020, 07:06:07 PM »
Most caves around here are pretty dangerous. Wild deep, slippery, or old decrepit mines. There are so many, that they can't all get covered and blocked off. The last time that I got into one, it was filled with sharp metal garbage and I believe a habitat for a bear. It would seem a better act for two people instead of alone.

Generally, I haven't enjoyed getting into holes in the ground. Nudity has not enhanced the experience, just dusty, dirty, bat guano and crawly folks.

I would enjoy a tour of a cave in the nude. Many are warm, a shelter. There is a fake cave at the Sonoran Desert Museum. Many years ago we got naked in it on a hot summer's day, when few visitors were around. sort of a fun dare with a girlfriend. These days, the place is crawling with people year round.

JMF sure has a good time with them.
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« Reply #310 on: April 23, 2020, 11:22:54 PM »
JBG, if you like the idea of touring a cave in the nude, plan on visiting New York State in September (from a news site, because I couldn't find it on the cave company's website):
https://hudsonvalleycountry.com/howe-caverns-naked-in-a-cave-announced/

Down the old gold mine in New Zealand!



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« Reply #311 on: April 24, 2020, 07:43:49 PM »
Woohoo! That looks just right...quite a drive though. I'd have to set it up with some other activities. Isn't that when things start getting cold, but before the leave drop?

I'm srill up in the air considering Llama packing and Lake Powell.

So, I notice that ball of gold on the edge of the picture in New Zealand.
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« Reply #312 on: April 30, 2020, 06:18:21 AM »
Farmland: From The Secret Naturist Handbook

Few people realise that most of our so-called countryside is actually farmland, land given over to the production of crops or the raising of livestock. When we visit the countryside we are more often than not actually crossing farmland. We may be following trails along field boundaries or crossing upland areas grazed by sheep, but still farmland nonetheless.

At first glance cultivated fields may not look suitable for secret naturism. However, while often very open and exposed to view, cover can often be provided for the nude rambler by the crop itself. For example, a mature crop of oil seed rape can reach chest high and will hide the lower part of the body. All that anyone would see from a distance is a bare chest. Walking (carefully) through crops can also be quite an interesting experience when naked.

Hedges are also common along field boundaries and can high provide a degree of cover and concealment. In fact, some hedges are so thick that even a field beside a busy main road may be suitable for nudity.

An area associated with fields are those small patches of woodland found at the junctions where field meet. These small areas of sometimes dense woodland can be great places to hole up during the day. With the woodland providing cover and the surrounding open fields offering good views to anyone approaching, you can often find peace and quiet for entire days. These places are also good for watching wildlife or for attempting secret naturist challenges.

One of the main problems with farmland is that they can be busy places throughout the day, usually by the farmers themselves. Farming hours can start very early, often around first light and continue well into the night, particularly during harvest season and during the lambing season. Take extra care at the times and have s good cover story ready.
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« Reply #313 on: April 30, 2020, 06:44:04 AM »
When i lived back east and in the Midwest, there were always little riparian areas, between fields, often in creeks, unsuitable for crops. often windbreaks, or barriers between roads and fields, places where bees and pollinators could survive. Much mischief could be done there. I hear that many of these areas disappeared with the production of bio fuels.

Here in Arizona, farms are big irrigated complexes. We get generally three crops a year.  Lots of cotton, lettuce, melons and also corn. Woods and creeks are special, nearly all are gone. The barriers between fields are generally berms elevated, seen and irrigation canals. The corn is redundant and precise sense the GMO stuff invaded. The irrigation areas are often bug infested, mosquitoes, etc. In the heat it is hellish. The places are loaded with pesticides and there is a risk of being sprayed, literally poisoned. It is a weird place to grow consumable food. Fortunately, the natural desert is abundant, rocky terrain and mountains are natural.

I suppose that much of the concerns of being seen in the countryside of those referred to islands, is passed with the new clarity of the law and free rambling trails. Do I have that correct?
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« Reply #314 on: April 30, 2020, 10:36:51 AM »
in uk we get a lot of public footpaths across farmland which generally run along field edges. weve aso got bridle ways which arnt open to through vehicular traffic.  in general farmland thats got livestock on it gets visited once a day to check the animals. arable crops and grassland for hay or silage only gets visited when necessary.   theres times when the farmland is pretty much deserted, what farmers there are about dont seem to worry what the public get up to provided they keep to the rights of way , respect other peoples property and dont leave litter.