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Jerryr

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Enjoying winter
« on: February 07, 2021, 06:32:37 PM »
Watching the snow fall gently outside my window got me to thinking about my approach to my love of being naked and winter’s challenges.  Last year I found a lightly used, beautiful beach nearby.  It provides an excellent 4 mile loop down a bike path, through woods and then out to a 1/2 mile, crescent shaped beach.  In the summer I got in the rhythm of a quick skinny dip as part of my walk.  Depending on the time and weather, the dip was often cut short or eliminated by walkers or offshore boats.  This winter it’s been very different.  Walkers are few and boaters nonexistent.  So I’ve continued my tradition as the temperature has dropped.  Coldest I’ve “dipped” is an air temp of upper 20’s, wind chill single numbers an water temp mid 30’s.  The dip is truly a dip with me in the water for less than a minute.  I’ve found it surprising how warm the water feels and then how warm the air feels as I come out (at least for a few minutes).   The overall experience has been physically and spiritually uplifting.  I’ve also  snowshoed and cross country skied naked a few times.  I’d be interested in hearing others experiences and thoughts.  After the sun goes down I think I’ll practice a few naked snow angels.

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Re: Enjoying winter
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2021, 07:18:15 PM »
Ooh boy! That sounds so stunning to a spoiled Arizona desert rat like me.

The book "The Naked Hermit" by Nick Mayhew-Smith tells tales of people doing these things for what is described as a uplifting spiritual experience. For my comprehension, it would be a less spiritual response most likely like, " Thank God I lived through that. ;D
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Re: Enjoying winter
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2021, 03:28:17 PM »
Winter here in Portugal is not snowish, but this year we have a lot snow in the mountains. I have done many naked walks these weeks, two of them in very cold (to the country average) temperatures:
1) one about -2 C with a sunny day. I have walked along a stream in a valley (canyonish) for about 1,5 hours. Naked from the waist down but I had kept my tennis shoes. Had taken off only to cross the stream cause the makeshift was drowned. the bottom line i did not feel cold at all ad get used to temperature very fast. No problem.
2) last weekend i did the same route but the conditions are different: 4 C, but it was cloudy. when i reached the bottom of the canyon and had to cross, the river was too high. I met another (clothed ) walker that took his tennis off to cross the stream. He had his dog with him and first did not notice me. I said hi and he looked at me with a weird look (what a naked guy is doing here?) .  i was with my jacket, tennis and ny backpack, i said that i was afraid of getting my shorts getting wet... I proceeded taking my shoes off and crossing the stream. When I was in the middle, he said "have a good day" and then proceeded to the other side. I thought he did not mind anymore about my undressed state... The crossing was very painful . It was too cold and my feet just felt like two stones.. But after crossing the stream, as i was going to follow the stream up, i thought i had to get my feet wet many other times, so I proceeded barefoot. I felt very cold on my feet, specially when walking on the stones. But I remembered an article on the "iceman" guy that use to stay in very cold situations..What he said is to breathe very fast and then exhale totally and stop breathing for the longest time you can. It was funny, but after this i started to feel a litttle warmth on my feet.. So i could proceed barefoot for the entire route, crossing the stream many times without feeling that cold. A couple that was in the upper track in the route saw me in the bottom of the canyon, all naked (with my jacket) and barefoot climbing a rock. I saw them looking at me. I waved to them and they waved back, smiling. It was funny, specially for them.. But i finished my walk at the car, barefoot and naked as i did not plan in the beginning.
Conclusion: i think cold is something realted to phsychology... 

 
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Re: Enjoying winter
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2021, 10:50:07 PM »
My psychology is definitely giving me a chill, just reading about your stream crossing. Brrr!
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Re: Enjoying winter
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2021, 01:08:30 PM »
There is definitely a lot to be said for “mind over matter”, and my brain can certainly exert a degree of control over my body at times, particularly where temperature is concerned as per this conversation. But equally there are times when the body responds with a “who are you trying to kid?” and I have to reach for the winter woollies.
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Re: Enjoying winter
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2021, 03:55:18 PM »
I have found that the ancient tribes of" "Tierra del fuego" (Land of fires or bonfires) in the southern tip of South America, they live most of the time surrounded by snow but they use to live naked!
See the photos  It is amazing. Maybe the mind rules the body, after all.
https://doorofperception.com/2016/10/the-lost-tribes-of-tierra-del-fuego/
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Re: Enjoying winter
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2021, 08:44:47 PM »
Luis, you might not be so familiar with this outside the English-speaking world, but the best known account we have about the natives of Tierra del Fuego comes from Charles Darwin's Voyage of the Beagle. By the time of his visit in the 1830s, the natives' way of life had been changed by white people to the extent that they were regularly begging from passing ships. There's a famous quote that you see a lot:
“These Fuegians in the canoe were quite naked, and even one full-grown woman was absolutely so. It was raining heavily, and the fresh water, together with the spray, trickled down her body. In another harbour not far distant a woman, who was suckling a recently born child, came one day alongside the vessel, and remained there whilst the sleet fell and thawed on her naked bosom, and on the skin of her naked child.”

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"Viewing such men, one can hardly make oneself believe they are fellow creatures, and inhabitants of the same world. At night, five or six human beings, naked and scarcely protected from the wind and rain of this tempestuous climate, sleep on the wet ground coiled up like animals.

Their country is a broken mass of wild rock, lofty hills, and useless forests. Nature, by making habit omnipotent, and its effects hereditary, has fitted the Fuegian to the climate and the productions of his country.”
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Re: Enjoying winter
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2021, 10:23:42 PM »
If the fuelgians could do it, so we can. Thanks for the excerpt from Darwin.
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Re: Enjoying winter
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2021, 10:32:16 PM »
People adapt. Bolivian natives with their barrel like torsos were the only ones that could mine silver in the high Andes. White people losing their dark pigments in northern climates. I wonder what physical adaptations these people had to take on the cold like that, besides ignorance leading to a remarkable attitude. Sleeping huddled naked with snow around!

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Re: Enjoying winter
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2021, 05:57:29 PM »
I have found that the ancient tribes of" "Tierra del fuego" (Land of fires or bonfires) in the southern tip of South America, they live most of the time surrounded by snow but they use to live naked!

It reminds me that I read somewhere that they used to smear their bodies with oil to protect themselves and that the European missionaries, by forcing them to cover themselves, made them lose this protection!
I like hiking, running, kayaking, biking, sailing, geocaching...naked of course!

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Re: Enjoying winter
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2021, 07:28:57 PM »
I don't know of any other instances like these people. Speaking of Bolivia, the Inca and Aymara people of the Andes wore wool, but as the elevation dropped toward the coast cotton popped out. The eastern slopes got into nudity, until colonial invasions. The Nepalese shares the tittle of most fine wool weaving.

There used to be mountain men, who would pass into La PAz, Bolivia, bundled in warm extremely thick leather looking garb stuffed with padding . It was too much even for La Paz. They never seemed to get out of the dressings. It looked like it would be quite a project to change. Like Eskimos, I suppose.

Monks in Tibet have a dance to warm up. What is the name of the guy who promotes the trips into the high snow caped mountains nude, Wim Hof?

Here's a link mentioning a shamanic principle in the taking a nude walk in the snow: https://www.thesacredscience.com/what-being-naked-in-the-snow-taught-me/

Those in the pictures appear to be dressed for something cerenmonial as well as exposed. THere may have been ritual invoved in their cold adaptation.

When does frost bite happen in Tierra De Fuego? 

DF has been telling me about the cold lakes in Vermont. I remember Michigan lakes. A desert rats adaptation to cold is probably stifled. Then, I read Hillwalker and HillwalkerDundee here: http://freerangenaturism.com/forum/index.php?topic=1005.msg9626#msg9626

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Re: Enjoying winter
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2021, 09:19:00 PM »
Here's an article about the 300 club, who go naked from a sauna to the south pole and back, a 300 degree difference in temperature:

https://ktna.org/2014/01/so-you-think-you-can-take-the-cold-try-walking-naked-to-the-south-pole/

I notice that a lot of these articles don't differentiate about whether the wind is blowing.

Hum, second post here today. It isn't particularly cold, especially here indoors today, but after sucking on a nice thick cold smoothy for a half an hour, I'm huddled up in a robe. My innards are cold.

Here's an article that mentions the problems with clothing in cold weather.

https://coldpruf.com/7-pieces-of-advice-that-could-save-your-life-in-extreme-cold/

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Re: Enjoying winter
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2021, 10:59:21 AM »
From what I've read they choose the conditions carefully. I've gone from sauna to snow experiencing about  200 degrees change about 93 deg C so I"ve still a way to go! As for winter I've walked naked during every winter month including whist it was snowing - but after  short while I did cover up.

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Re: Enjoying winter
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2021, 05:27:00 AM »
I've done some winter naturism when conditions are right, which means a sunny day that's not extremely cold or windy. It can actually be very pleasant. Back around the turn of the millennium I had a friend who owned some property in the hills of New Hampshire, where he'd cut ski trails. In his younger days he was a competitive cross-country skier and he was still very good, while I was a floundering beginner; he was patient about that. I learned what it's like to plunge full length into the snow naked! That all came to an end in 2002 when his wife called to say he had died suddenly. With his ski boots on, though not naked. (He was at a commercial ski area near his home.) I've posted some winter pictures here in the past.

Jerryr, we seem to be neighbors. Care to give any hints about where you live, or send a message? I'm in the Boston suburbs.