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Re: Overall progress ??
« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2017, 04:41:22 PM »
Ditto. My experiences with watercolors has been disappointing and frustrating. You did well with the coloring.
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« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2017, 05:06:40 PM »
I'm impressed! Most of my attempts at body art have ended in frustration but I did get quite good at cartoon characters. One would think however that those interested n the arts would be more open minded? 
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« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2017, 05:58:03 PM »
Even people that have had careers in the arts have lack of open mind toward daily nudity where Nuduke lives. Yea, I always assumed that involvement in the arts would go hand and hand with a more liberal and general acceptance of the body. I find it very surprising that they don't always. Artists in my mind, were always cool that way.

Maybe for a simple, non-professional art class, the local sensibilities of prudish behavior override. She doesn't want to make waves, but to keep things "nice" and safe for the ladies. An extreme example of my point might be her bringing in a nude subject and creating a scandal and alert husbands. The activity is a hobby like painting plates. Fun but no scandalous nudes.
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« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2017, 06:52:51 PM »
You might be right, Jbee.

But if she had an accepting view of the nude in art, she would likely have been prompted to pull John aside after all the proper ladies had left and congratulate him both on his accomplishment and his choice of a challenging task.

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« Reply #34 on: March 11, 2017, 08:09:53 PM »

Quote from: jbee
Maybe for a simple, non-professional art class, the local sensibilities of prudish behavior override. She doesn't want to make waves, but to keep things "nice" and safe for the ladies


That's exactly it, Jbee.  Whilst most things here in small town rural UK are nicer, conservatism of all sorts is more pronounced.  The cities are where to go to find a higher proportion of open minds.


Also, Duane, some of the ladies in my group are quite talented - better than me.  One produces incredible, impressionistic work and then proceeds to be unhappy with it but it generates extreme envy of her talent amongst the rest of us! :)


Now the secret revealed:  Whilst I am well able to produce work of that quality from scratch or by the usual reference to a photo, the picture below was a painting produced by tracing (tracing has been used at least since the rennaissance!).  I have developed a method using MS Fresh Paint (you need windows 10, Duane!) on my tablet.  You can place a picture on the tablet screen and use the electronic pen to trace and shade over the original.  This really speeds up the draughting process and is a cheat to get better rendering of perspective.  I then remove the original leaving the pen sketch, which I then print out onto watercolour paper and paint in all the colours and shadows, etc,etc and also make the picture my own where appropriate (I left quite a bit out compared with the original as you couldn't get some of the effects etc in watercolour rather than oils).  So the effect is a composite of assisted copying and original painting.  I certainly don't use this technique exclusively but it is nice to focus on the line and so on of a proper masterly painting or a difficult photographic subject and be somewhat guided to the composite conclusion.  It's certainly a lot less formulaic than some of the commercial patent methods which involve exact copying, brushstroke for brushstroke of a tutor.


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« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2017, 10:11:08 PM »
Having looked at both the original and your low-def scan side by side my criticism would be that you did not get the greys in the body sculpting right. Where they were present they were too harsh and they were absent in placed where they were essential to present the body contours correctly.

This from somebody who could not have done that well himself.
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« Reply #36 on: March 12, 2017, 09:29:33 PM »
Thanks, John for the clarification!

It's still better than I could have done.

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« Reply #37 on: March 23, 2017, 04:57:32 PM »

[quote"JOhngw"]Having looked at both the original and your low-def scan side by side my criticism would be that you did not get the greys in the body sculpting right. Where they were present they were too harsh and they were absent in placed where they were essential to present the body contours correctly.
This from somebody who could not have done that well himself.


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