New converts to FRN

[eyesup]

If more people did do naked sunbathing, and it became so prevalent that it was no longer unexpected, next on the agenda would be naked hiking!

My brain usually begins to focus on the noise. Especially if it's irregular. Steady, monotonous noise starts to fade to white noise and I stop hearing it.

That happens to the ringing in my ears sometimes! 

Duane

[BlueTrain]

An old book I have starts out by making mention of "sun-starved" people living in New York apartment houses. Although I have said somewhere or other that the AANR was correct in changing its name to "American Association of Nude Recreation," the older name of American Sunbathing Association may have been more correct in the past when some people were more devoted than now to getting a good tan. That's something I've never been able to do, yet that was the initial entrance, so to say, to being nude outside.

But it can be a leap from sunbathing or swimming to hiking. My feet are only good for a couple of miles these days.

[JOhnGw]

Nude sunbathing seems to be the most accepted form of public nudity, so maybe hiking nude will become as accepted as the sunbathing is.
Duane

I always found sunbathing to be exceedingly boring.  I need to be doing something like hiking, walking, playing, etc. 

Bob

The nearest I ever get to sunbathing is reading.

[Greenbare Woods]

An old book I have starts out by making mention of "sun-starved" people living in New York apartment houses. Although I have said somewhere or other that the AANR was correct in changing its name to "American Association of Nude Recreation," the older name of American Sunbathing Association may have been more correct in the past when some people were more devoted than now to getting a good tan. That's something I've never been able to do, yet that was the initial entrance, so to say, to being nude outside.
But it can be a leap from sunbathing or swimming to hiking. My feet are only good for a couple of miles these days.

The name AANR is all about going on holiday at commercial nude farms.  It has nothing to do with every day nude living.   I was a member of ASA, but dropped my membership shortly after they refocused their organization on factory farm holidays.   The organization has opposed free range nudism, but at least now they are honest about their goals and programs.

Bob

[nuduke]

Nude sunbathing seems to be the most accepted form of public nudity, so maybe hiking nude will become as accepted as the sunbathing is.
Duane

I always found sunbathing to be exceedingly boring.  I need to be doing something like hiking, walking, playing, etc. 

Bob

Me too.  And in the UK that means you don't really go brown unless you lie still and cook for hours.
John

[nuduke]

Nude sunbathing seems to be the most accepted form of public nudity, so maybe hiking nude will become as accepted as the sunbathing is.
Duane

I always found sunbathing to be exceedingly boring.  I need to be doing something like hiking, walking, playing, etc. 

Bob

The nearest I ever get to sunbathing is reading.

Yes again - that's me too.  When I've got a good book or a crossword or something my tolerance to sitting about becomes much higher.  Looking at your picture with the long grass in front of you, JOhn, you do more reading than gardening!....very good thing too - I hate gardening.


Taking up Bob's point about laying out in the woods - I have to say that I find meditating (properly) is more of an active process and doesn't become boring so quickly as just lying in the sun doing nothing in my experience (which is quite small so far).  However sitting or lying in strong sunshine is not conducive to meditating I find.


John

[eyesup]

Generally, I don’t sunbathe simply for the sake of sunbathing, although I have done it when it has been too long between hikes. I have no problem at all with laying in the sun while out on a hike. That would make it part of the hike and I’m merely relaxing for a spell.

I have to be careful if I'm reading outside in the summer. If I'm laying on my back and holding the book above me, I've had the glued bindings on paperbacks come undone in the HEAT.

This has actually happened.

Duane

[jbeegoode]

Me, too. Alwyas the good ones, too.

Then there is that positioning factor. On my back, my arms can go to sleep, on my side my neck can crick, on my belly, both.

I focus on my shoulders and nose for base coat at first because those burn quickest.
Jbee

[nuduke]

You don't know how amazing that is to we Brits, Duane.
That it's hot enough to melt your book binding is the remotest, nay, most remote of possibilities in the UK and even in hot bits of europe I suspect.
However, it may equally be a consequence of the crappiness of US book production!
John

[jbeegoode]

Some bindings are stronger than others, but I've had hardcover textbooks fail while studying in the sun.
Jbee

[eyesup]

John, I know you were here for a spell, but as I recall you didn’t experience the true heat of the desert. Correct me if I am mistaken.

When out in it on a clear day, it is a total immersion. There is the sun, of course, but the heat is all around. It reflects, it radiates, the sun amplifies those sources that are around and under you. Even the shade is hot. There is the inevitable humorous segment in the ‘news’ where someone cooks an egg outdoors without a fire. The interior of a vehicle with dark paint can climb to above 135° F.

Crappy book bindings merely dissolve faster than the better quality ones.

Duane

[jbeegoode]

In the sun.

It was way respectfully over 100F When Nuduke arrived in Scottsdale. We walked to the car in, briefly. We airconditioned to the restaurant. We walked briefly to the airconditioned eatery. Already the heat was disapating. It was calming down by the time we left. The temp on the golfcourse was lovely naked, the grass wonderful and cooled from its daily sunbaked hot.

So, I suppose he had a good five minutes of intense PHX heat. The kind of heat that no one lays out reading in, because they just find themselves staying in the pool. We treated it just like any sane Arizonan would. But don't leave your book in the sun.
Jbee

[eyesup]

Well, I had to go and look and Nuduke was here in Vegas in Sept. of '14. Sept. can be hot but it is well past the HOT days of July & Aug.

No matter as PHX is usually 5-10 degrees hotter than here. So yeah, they got a good experience of it.

We need to coordinate another gathering somewhere! Preferably in the Spring or Fall.
Fun!

Duane

[jbeegoode]

As I remember, it was at least over 105F as PHX usually is and September was just an extension of August.
Jbee

[eyesup]

105° F can be rather pleasant under the right conditions.
That's the temp we generally use as our cutoff for spending too much time outside.

Duane