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How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« on: July 13, 2015, 09:59:06 AM »
Have we revived "How Was Your Month for SN" yet?  If not,  Ian, start us up again with July's stats, please.  HWYMFSN ran to 50+ pages and was a pillar of the old place.

OK. The gauntlet has been thrown down, so here are my numbers for June. As was usual, after the monthly figures I have included the year to date numbers in parenthesis.

Walks: 20 (119)
Skinny dips: 0 (10)
Bike rides: 2 (5)
SOC walks:0 (0)
Encounters: 1 (5)
Naked geocache finds: 15 (40)

Total free range naked time: 50:09 (213:21)

Some meat on the bones:

The bike rides were both home from the pub leaving around 22:30. On each occasion, I cycled until I was just out of town and then chucked my clothes in a bag to cycle the rest of the way naked apart from the footwear required to use the clipless pedals on my bike. My route is cross-country with no roads apart from one point where I have to cross a road, for which I usually cover up unless I am very late. I dressed just before entering the town where I live.

The encounter was around 06:00 with a jogger on a rarely used path. The path is bounded with a thorn hedge and pig wire either side for about a quarter of a mile and is generally very quiet, I have only met people here a handfull of times at any time of day and never before in the early morning. On this occasion, I was about a third of the way along the path when the jogger crested a rise in front of me. There was no time to hide or cover up so I simply called Hazel to me and made her sit while he went past. I offered my usual cheerful greeting and received a slightly breathless response and a thank you, presumably for keeping the dog out of his way. There was no particular reaction to my attire.

The cache finds were in Cornwall while visiting one of Carole's sisters. Seven were on a walk on Bodmin, including climbing Brown Willy, the remaining eight were the next day on a circular walk around the outside of the Lost Gardens of Heligan, a couple of miles from where we were staying. I was able to get away from Carole and sister because the plan had been for all three sisters to get together for some sister time. The other sister dropped out and I offered to drive Carole down rather than have her do a five-hour drive on her own (she has never done a drive over three hours). I really must make an effort to visit the Lost Gardens themselves one day; I wonder whether they could be persuaded to run an Abbey House Gardens style CO day?

When John suggested starting this old TSNS thread here he also wrote:

I've had a corking month with loads of skyclad time, some in the presence of the wifey, no less, with her moaning throughout but nevertheless being there!

I guess this would merit a little more information...

Have fun,


Ian.
« Last Edit: July 13, 2015, 12:52:05 PM by milfmog »
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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2015, 11:31:39 AM »
Impressive figures as usual Ian. I'm pleased you substituted "free range naturism" for "SN", a now defunct term in my opinion.

Since I stopped keeping records my reports can only be vague, perhaps I should start keeping them again. My June was slightly disappointing with not enough long periods of sun for my liking, except for the very end. July so far has been a different story and I now have a tan ready for anything. Now I need lots more sun!
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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2015, 06:57:52 PM »
With thorn hedges and pig wire(?) there was not only no time but no place to hide.

What are the temps at 6:00 am and how long are the bike rides?

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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2015, 08:26:09 PM »
With thorn hedges and pig wire(?) there was not only no time but no place to hide.
Quite true. Once I start along that path I am committed as there is no way out though, as I said it is very rare to meet anyone there.

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What are the temps at 6:00 am and how long are the bike rides?
On the day in question, the temperature was 10C (50F) and dry. The bike rides are around 30 minutes if I take the direct route as I did both times last month (working the next day) but have been known to last up to 90 minutes on a night when I could afford to be late.

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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2015, 10:02:35 PM »
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When John suggested starting this old TSNS thread here he also wrote:



Quote from: nuduke on July 13, 2015, 12:29:04 AM

I've had a corking month with loads of skyclad time, some in the presence of the wifey, no less, with her moaning throughout but nevertheless being there!



I guess this would merit a little more information...
 

And true to form here is the story...This is both report of July naked activity and also "Spouse progress update"

The weather has been very good in June/July and I have been very keen to spend as much time as possible in the correct dress.  However, now retired and both of us at home together a lot, one is a bit penned in by the dear wife, so I have been facing into my opportunities much more blatantly.  I was mowing the lower lawn and decided to be utterly uninhibited and not bother to dress to do the sections that are overlooked by an upper window next door because with shrubs etc in full leaf they can't really see the lower half of one.  After I'd finished I made me and the wife a nice cuppa and sitting in the sun remarked that I had mowed the lawn naked and she hadn't noticed despite sitting out in view of me turning round each swathe and doing it for about 20 minutes.  She tutted and moaned a bit but I had the opportunity to exemplify that my naturism is discreet and secret and part of that is about what other people expect to see.  Since she wasn't expecting it she didn't look and had she not been reading I would probably have not been so blatantly naked. 

I've also adopted saying to her when I'd be nude as in "When you next come out be aware I'll probably be naked so make your presence known and I'll cover up".  Generally she's accepted that if she's not there it's sort of invisible and if invisible it's ok.

So I've been pushing it as far as I can indoors and out.  We often have a bedtime cuppa and indeed a morning cuppa in bed.  When I go to make it I go naked and she often says "Put something on, for heaven's sake" or words to that effect, my reply has been 'No'.  This month whilst it's been an issue therefore I've taken the opportunity to explain how one is discreet and can easily avoid answering the door to someone whilst naked or being seen through a window.  I have pointed out my standby shorts and tshirt kept downstairs and on one occasion when the doorbell did ring early morning, how I could walk upstairs, get into a dressing gown and answer the door in adequate time with neither rush or panic or embarrassment.  Because we have been sitting out a lot together I have pointed out how it is not possible to be seen in the appropriate places.

She is still very uneasy if I disrobe next to her on the patio.  "Cover up, for heaven's sake".  On those occasions I cover my crotch with a small square of kikoy or drape shorts over it.  As one might expect a degree of toleration is emerging.  As I say, being naked around her makes her feel uncomfortable most of the time but acceptance of discretion when she's not there is improving.

There has been a tiny bit of discussion about my feelings about naturism and I have emphasised that I accept that she just doesn't get it but that she should understand that there is more to being naked than she realises and that none of it is perverted, sexual or even particularly unusual and being very emphatic that I'm not going to try and explain because it won't make any difference and it will lead to a debate that neither of us will win or even compromise on because we both have very strong views.  I think that did get her thinking though.  I have promised that I would never embarrass her knowingly.

There has also been something of a sea change which will feature in the next post as this one is long enough now!

John

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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2015, 10:42:17 PM »
We have been looking for a new house and I have been emphasising that a private garden and not being overlooked is something I would like very much.  It took a bit of refusing to be interested in overlooked houses for the penny to drop and to give me the opportunity to say that I would like to think I could have some naked sunbathing in the garden sometimes and be able to go downstairs nude to make the tea and not worry about her being worried that I'd be on view.

To my delight she seems to have accepted this to quite a large extent and I really think I may have moved her a notch up.  This week we saw a vry nice house with a jacuzzi in the very small, very secluded garden.  In our conversation about the house, I said to her quite clearly that she could not expect me not to be naked in the jacuzzi and be able to walk naked to and from it unencumbered by the nuisance of clothing.  She replied that she would perhaps do the same sometimes.  I replied that I would be delighted if she did and that maybe that would be a positive experience for her and help her understand.

In another house there were high hedges and fences and I was enthusiastic about its seclusion and as we developed the argument about that one she was pointing out all the vulnerabilities to make sure I had recce'd it properly and would be happy to be naked and that she'd be happy that I was hidden.  In another house surrounded by hedges and with very good seclusion (which we have an offer on) she had moved to an acceptance that I would be naked in the garden and could walk into the garden at dawn or midnight freely and without needing to cover up.  In these conversations I have assured her that perforce nudity is sporadic (we are not living in Arizona!) and that I'm not going to start insisting on living a totally naked life and that I'd regulate it to reasonable and discreet proportions as I have told her.

The house we have offered on is a bit cheaper than we'd budgeted for and needed less redecoration etc., and she remarked that one use for the positive financial difference would be to have a jacuzzi in the garden like the other house, where I could be naked!  I felt really good about that as you might imagine.  We can't afford a jacuzzi (she knows that too) but her suggestion was reassuring.

I reckon some progress has been truly made in her willingness to accept that I'm a naturist and that it is unlikely that the world will discover this fact and that we'd become a laughing stock!  The house we're wanting is in a large village and she said that she would not tolerate me becoming the village naturist - a figure of fun with people laughing at her in the post office cue.  So I better keep it quiet or else.  (note, keep it quiet not don't do it!).  This reveals both that there is a bit of acceptance and also the depths of her social fears about nudity.

Finally, I forgot to mention another moment whilst she was moaning:
"Why do you feel you want to be naked all the time?  It's unnatural"
"I'm not going to engage with that, Darling, we've agreed you don't currently and don't want to understand it."
"Well why don't you go off to some naturist place sometimes and be naked there for a day and get it off your chest?"
"But you hate the idea that I should mix with other naturists, you think it's an evil addiction on my part and I will lose my sole amongst naturists because you tell me they are the spawn of satan."
"Yes, but at least you'd be doing it out of the way."
"My naturism is about being free, without clothes and not about seeking to be with other naturists but if you're happy for me to excercise my desire for nakedness in nature, I wouldn't say no to a few days at naturist clubs."
So I think we're perhaps in a frame for permitting social naturism one day (maybe soon!) without concomitant divorce.  The reported conversation was a bit more roundabout than that but no less clear in statements.

Hope the long posts are readable and that you're not bored by my account of the trivial, argumentative detail of my domestic existence!
I felt though that I'd like to share my busy month for being nude and what it's spin offs have been!

John

 


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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2015, 02:35:35 AM »
Hope you take this in the good natured spirit it is intended, but that conversation had me chuckling.  ;D

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Well why don't you go off to some naturist place sometimes and be naked there for a day and get it off your chest?

But you hate the idea that I should mix with other naturists, you think it's an evil addiction on my part and I will lose my sole(sic) amongst naturists because you tell me they are the spawn of satan.

Yes, but at least you'd be doing it out of the way.

I know what she means by the comment but:
"She's ok with you losing your immortal soul to the devil by associating with naturists, as long as it's out of sight".   :-\
Somewhat draconian, yes?  ???

Yes, you now have her engaged in a conversation, not about whether you will be naked, but where and when. That for you is definitely progress. I hope that things are as they appear and are looking up!

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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2015, 06:28:24 AM »
That IS a great deal of progress. You shall have a private backyard and ability to sun and enjoy yourself without restriction or contempt.

 She is getting better acceptance or more used to your nudity than before.

You’ll be able to meet at say an Abbyhouse Gardens, or some other activity, without feeling the need to sneak away. Making an honest non-secret naturist of you.

She might join you in a Jacuzzi experience, if you had one! I’m sure that that would lead to a more relaxed attitude.

In the early 90’s, I had a boss, a middle aged nurse, who one day while shooting the breeze around the office chuckled, “When he’s home, I just can’t keep clothes on my husband.” She thought it cute eccentric, but no big deal anymore, an entertaining story. He had worn her down to accepting it as too harmless to fight it, but, “oh no, not me.”

In the seventies, I went down to Baja Spa, a Jacuzzi style fiberglass hot tub manufacturer. I bought a second at a fraction of the price. It had a small bump in the wall, not perfect. They were glad to get rid of it. When it was filled with water, it was undetectable. I forgot where the flaw was.

I bought a heavy-duty pool heater, one that was designed for a 20x40 ft. pool, so that it would heat up quickly. That and a good 2 ½ hp pump, with filter, were all acquired at contractor rates through a friend. The plumbing was pretty simple, I go some help from the friend doing the gas hookup. That, with a few six-packs  and a pickup truck and we carried the tub into the backyard. It just sat there exposed for a year, but was used nearly nightly, eventually, maybe a hundred naked friends. It was very easy to talk people into a hot tub, especially after the bars closed. That was a very social year.

After that, I bought a new house and we all moved it again. This time I buried it somewhat and sat volcanic rock around it, brick patio, etc. It went with the house 17 years later. I got more than my money’s worth the first year, especially since the cost was maybe 25 percent of just purchasing one.

 I have seen more portable $3000, or $4000 tubs sell on Craig’s List for a grand or so. Then hire a crane and crew.

Mine was circular, 7ft. diameter and I arranged the jets perfectly for massaging different areas of the body say neck or lower spine. I also put them to make a sort of vortex spinning the water around. In the hot day, I’d place a rubber pool raft in it. The raft would rotate in the sun so that I could roticerate while sun bathing and the water kept me cool. The 625 gallons of water would heat up in about 40 minutes for a hot tub with the flick of a thermostat switch.
« Last Edit: July 17, 2015, 07:15:03 AM by jbeegoode »
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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2015, 07:11:44 AM »
Oh yea, my June was usual nude, except the last weekend in clothing for a couple of days. I think that I posted about this right before the demise of TSNS. A campout in a set campsite with DF's women's group. It will turn up on the new site one of these days. There was a short nude hike.


July is going to be extremely nude. Putting on clothing will be extremely rare. I have dressed for three Wednesday nights for 3 1/2 hours. We went out to eat once. I stopped to buy groceries a few times and spent four hours dressed today at a funeral. DF decided that she needed a "ME" weekend and I decided to use the time at home. Next week, we will be in Calif. five days over a weekend. I may have been nude, around 30 out of approximately 744 hours in July. However, it won't be all out there moving around. That's lots of computer time learning how to make a couple of websites and puttering around the house. Yea, just naked on the couch working and playing with a keyboard. It's not that I'm looking to break a record. It is just a month where my social time has been mostly nude and I've been more recluse busy and it snuck up on me.


The heat has been pretty strong, so most nights have been spent sleeping without covers. Any clothing feels hot in this heat. I'd think that clothing would be even more abhorrent than usual, but the transition has been okay when dressed. I haven't liked the clothing, I've seen myself waiting until the last minute to dress and disrobing immediately feeling relief, but...well, this is pretty extreme, even if it does feel natural, practical and sane.
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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2015, 11:47:21 PM »
Thanks for comments, guys.
Jbee, you are getting like the japanese islander - always skyclad!  As I have said many times I do envy your climate.

Interesting comment about sleeping in the heat.  When I've been in hot and sporadically humid climates e.g. in Spain, I don't seem to deop off to sleep unless I'm under something.  True, the preference would be no covers but it seems to inhibit the appearance of morpheus!  Just habit I guess.

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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2015, 05:51:50 PM »
Interesting.

Does that apply when you are clothed or unclothed? Or doesn't in matter?
I used to fall asleep on the couch and no covers but couldn't say whether I had dreams.

May be I'll do an experiment.

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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2015, 06:29:35 PM »
Morpheus! I didn’t catch that you were referring to dreams. Dreams typically come in certain sleep states. When sleeping patterns are disturbed, quantity and quality can be changed. One might sleep more sound and secure under something, or in a nest/cave and where there are fewer distractions, more disturbance.

Personally, whenever I wake up, for any reason I seem to be recalling dreams. The fact that I’m nude without covers hasn’t affected that. I can fall asleep naked while sunbathing, even in public and still have dream states.

How quickly I drop off is dependent on many factors, but naked and uncovered has never interfered.
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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2015, 02:37:55 AM »
So far good enough for july,  sufficient naked time on the job has left me without tan lines,   and the extra little walk back behind the job site a couple days ago was nice,   Probably a half mile back to the creek for a skinny dip.   I knew the creek was there somewhere but didn't know if it were accessible.    Found a trail to it.    It's actually piney creek that makes piney falls over in fall creek falls state park not far away. 

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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2015, 01:33:32 AM »
Quote from: eyesup
Does that apply when you are clothed or unclothed?
I'm never clothed in bed!
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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2015, 01:28:21 AM »
This year's weather on the Canadian prairie has been ideal for naturism
... hot and dry! With a near absence of rain, I've barely even encountered mosquitos.

Although my secret naturist romps have traditionally been in the dead of night, I've now switched mainly to freehiking across the plains. This summer, I've found a safe place to park, at a Berry plantation 3 kms from a nudist beach. After the first half kilometre or so, I'm out of the public's line of sight, and out of my clothes. The rest of the way is through a dried-out river tributary, across a wheatfeld, and through a meadow enclosed by forest. I eventually emerge at the river, right at the nudist beach.

I'm able to stay nude all day, dressing again only near the end of my return hike, when nearing the public road that leads to the plantation.

The meadows I cross are wonderful. I'll have to post some pics soon.
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