I agree that a sixteen-year old girl looses all her attractiveness when she is nude.
Paging Dr Freud!
I don't actually think "textile" is an abusive term. It just refers to a person who believes everyone should wear clothes in public, and I think it's an acknowledgement that naturism isn't a belief that stands in contrast to "normal" people--rather there are two outlooks on the presentation of the body, and we need to persuade the other side, the textiles, that we aren't trying to do anything harmful. In fact, we're hoping nudity will be considered part of the "normal" set of human behavior, every bit as much as the textile outlook is treated now.
I think it's true that skimpy clothing has the effect of fetishizing the body parts which are covered. With modest clothing, it's possible to say "the body is covered". But when almost the whole body can be seen, your attention is drawn directly to what's hidden. But we can't deny that it's what we're used to seeing. So girls in tiny bikinis are an "Everyday Occurance" if you aren't too fussy over spelling, and yet at the same time, if we think about it, there's quite an exhibitionistic display there. But is it really exhibitionism if you're seeing it all the time?
Damn, it's tough being a philosopher. You never get a moment's peace.
I think that "attractiveness" needs a clear definition here. Everyone should look more attractive nude because it isn't based on an commercialized idealized vision of what what attracts should. If one uses the cultural commercial definition then anyone would need clothing to cover the flaws and titillate.
I used to work in a school district and was placed with teenage girls at times. They would dress for success with boys, or anyone who might notice them. I would get pulled in, but when they opened their mouths, they suddenly became children again. It occupied my energy to attempt to not take notice and distract from task, when these kids were doing everything to get noticed.
Thank you John P. for being succinct.
Ideally, we all would not make issue of being dressed or not. I see textile obsession everywhere and feel its oppressive side. I might distinguish between "textile" and "textile obsessed." "Textile Mandatory" kinda gets in ma craw.
I notice that more and more our culture is getting set on three triangles for covering. The width of the area that one might place a belt seems to determine if one is modest in their swimsuit. Is it a string, a thin belt or a wide belt? Why would the area where a belt might be determines modesty is beyond me. Jus' don't make sense, because that area has never been particularly scandalous to see. We had hip huggers in the 60's.
Naked butt or no imagination needed butt is the new barrier that is getting crossed. See a butt, everybody's got one, so what. From leggings to thongs, to most any pair of pants, butts are not a modesty thing anymore for all ages. But don't let your skirt fly up in the wind...it jus' don't make sense.
"Occurances" !!! I din't notice the type-o!.
Jbee