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jbeegoode

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Stealth in an Urban Environment
« on: May 13, 2016, 05:04:20 PM »
I just posted a refurbished expanded oldie, but goodey, at the website. It is about chopping wood nude and the stealth steps taken to roam about nude around an urban home. Perhaps the topic and intro will open informative discussion here.
https://thefreerangenaturist.org/2016/05/13/an-urban-setting-with-wood/
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Re: Stealth in an Urban Environment
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2016, 05:36:12 PM »
I remember that one.

Reminds me of our intrepid urban SN'er, Larry (tanman).
As I recall occasionally Ian would do a little of the urban excursions.

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Re: Stealth in an Urban Environment
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2016, 02:25:35 AM »
About half is the old post and half anew expanded version. Glad to make a lasting impression.
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Re: Stealth in an Urban Environment
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2016, 03:37:14 PM »
Good writing Jbee! Lately we have had a turnover in our little plot of earth as many of the older empty nesters are moving out to downsize and younger couples are buying the houses. That means learning a whole new set of habits and work schedules plus dealing with young ones. It seems that half the neighborhood changed while we were on winter hiatus!
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Re: Stealth in an Urban Environment
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2016, 01:28:04 PM »
when you really think about the neighbours habits, angles of view and expectations its surprising what apparently risky behaviour you can actually get away with.

i like to work naked both at home and on clients properties, its fair to say that when the clients not present ill push the boundaries further than when theyre there, their casual perception of what the neighbour can see can be  wildly different to my analysis.

a case in point, this week i was looking at replacing a fence post for a customer.... its up beside the back of her garage about 30 yards from the back gate in full view of passers by... but my white transit van parked correctly on the drive  would provide full cover, fine if the client is out probably not good enough in her eyes  if shes there.

another tactic i use is to wear a minimal thong when i know the neighbours are likely to see me....once theyre used to me wearing a thong , their expectations are that im wearing one when they accidentally catch a glimpse of me naked.... using a ride on tractor mower with a large front engine   the side of my bare  leg is visible from a distance deciding whether im wearing a thong with a string waistband hidden in rolls of flesh is virtually impossible, neighbours having seen me in a thong in the past will probably assume im wearing one whist mowing the front lawn in full view of the road gate.

the other good news is as the wife becomes more used to being naked in the garden shes not worrying about people glimpsing me soo much, though still insists i wear summit if were actually expecting someone to come round.  shes also happier if i mow the front lawn when we expect the neighbourhood children to be at school,

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Re: Stealth in an Urban Environment
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2016, 06:08:40 PM »
I would have thought a thong would generate nearly as much approbation amongst the unsuspecting passer by / neighbour / resident as full nudity.  I've often thought about a thong for those occasions where one might be seen but low risk such as described in my last post http://freerangenaturism.com/forum/index.php?topic=771.new#new
I've a feeling that the wife would be equally scathing about seeing thong as willy! :D

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Re: Stealth in an Urban Environment
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2016, 05:17:27 PM »
Seldom do the reactions from the public have any basis in rational or reasonable behavior. A thong does, though, give and immediate impression of nudity until further inspection. If you make it that far.

It seems that once you step outside the 'norm' you are probably going to get a reaction of one kind or another. The trouble is trying to figure the norm for wherever you are.

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Re: Stealth in an Urban Environment
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2016, 06:21:12 PM »
It seems that once you step outside the 'norm' you are probably going to get a reaction of one kind or another. The trouble is trying to figure the norm for wherever you are.
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The norm is what we are really fighting here.  If nobody ever goes out naked and gets seen, then the "norm" becomes a situation where human beings are not norm.  That which is unseen soon becomes unseeable and freighting.

The reverse is also true.  That which is occasionally seen soon becomes part of the norm.  The answer for nudists is to have courage to be seen occasionally by everyone, meaning frequently for us because we are so few.   We can recapture nude as norm by making it so instead of hiding behind bushes and fences. 

Yes, when seen by someone who has never seen a human being, you may get a reaction either positive or negative.   But when the same person has seen a naked person 2 or 3 times, it no longer is uncommon and they quit reacting.  So lets all quit hiding and go out to get seen. 

Human bodies are natural, comfortable, and green.
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Re: Stealth in an Urban Environment
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2016, 02:11:39 AM »
True, Bob.

The norm could even be nudity is ok. A few places are like that.

If norm were to include nudity, nude people acting odd would be attracting attention because they are odd, not nude.

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Re: Stealth in an Urban Environment
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2016, 05:23:31 AM »
It seems that once you step outside the 'norm' you are probably going to get a reaction of one kind or another. The trouble is trying to figure the norm for wherever you are.
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The norm is what we are really fighting here.  If nobody ever goes out naked and gets seen, then the "norm" becomes a situation where human beings are not norm.  That which is unseen soon becomes unseeable and freighting.

The reverse is also true.  That which is occasionally seen soon becomes part of the norm.  The answer for nudists is to have courage to be seen occasionally by everyone, meaning frequently for us because we are so few.   We can recapture nude as norm by making it so instead of hiding behind bushes and fences. 

Yes, when seen by someone who has never seen a human being, you may get a reaction either positive or negative.   But when the same person has seen a naked person 2 or 3 times, it no longer is uncommon and they quit reacting.  So lets all quit hiding and go out to get seen.

Most of the time, I'm thinking that that should work, but there is a flip-side. Like this example, http://freerangenaturism.com/forum/index.php?topic=663.msg4446#msg4446

On another thread. The minority of fools, feeling that things are getting out of hand, call the police, and there is negative reaction. Verbal interaction, smiles, eye contact, discussion, assurances all need to be mixed in with the just hanging out nude. Publicity, like NWBR and NUDE Hiking Day and Gardening DAy, and nude organizations in the community being of service, and talk among friends and strangers are even better, because they don't leave the imaginations of objectors to run free and negative.
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Re: Stealth in an Urban Environment
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2016, 04:35:53 PM »
Publicity, like NWBR and NUDE Hiking Day and Gardening DAy, and nude organizations in the community being of service, and talk among friends and strangers are even better, because they don't leave the imaginations of objectors to run free and negative.
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All those publicity events are important.  They are needed to generate positive information about hanging out naked.  They are not sufficient, however, to establish naked as normal.  We need to do as many publicity events as we can and also just be seen naked whenever we aren't likely to be arrested for it. 

Human bodies are natural, comfortable, and green.
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Re: Stealth in an Urban Environment
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2016, 06:56:45 PM »
I agree with you Bob. Although I get the feeling we likely won't see that. Maybe our kids will.

But, there is hope.

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Re: Stealth in an Urban Environment
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2016, 10:45:58 PM »
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The norm is what we are really fighting here.

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The answer for nudists is to have courage to be seen occasionally by everyone, meaning frequently for us because we are so few.   We can recapture nude as norm by making it so instead of hiding behind bushes and fences.

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All those publicity events are important.  They are needed to generate positive information about hanging out naked.  They are not sufficient, however, to establish naked as normal.  We need to do as many publicity events as we can and also just be seen naked whenever we aren't likely to be arrested for it. 

Very well said, Bob and inspiring to boot.  Given that I'm no biker, I wish there were more opportunities (like WNBR) for the unfit and aging, that one could lend ones body to that would avoid public approbrium, offer a bit of naked fun and in doing so, push forward the naked acceptance boundaries a little bit. What about 'World Naked Comfortable Stroll' or 'World Naked sit and chat' or 'World Naked Quiz night' events!

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Re: Stealth in an Urban Environment
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2016, 08:59:56 PM »
We'll let's see:

WNB (World Naked Bingo)
WNH (World Naked Hopscotch) . . . errr, maybe not
WNLB (World Naked Lawn Bowling)
WNLR (World Naked Literary Readings)
WNSUN (World Naked Stand Up Night)
WNPE (World Naked Pie Eating) . . followed immediately by . .
WNWBF (World Naked Water Balloon Fight)

I think you have a good there John. A plethora of possibilities.

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Re: Stealth in an Urban Environment
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2016, 11:54:47 PM »
WNSUN (World Naked Stand Up Night)
WNPE (World Naked Pie Eating) . . followed immediately by . .
WNWBF (World Naked Water Balloon Fight)

Well, those are fine ideas for sporting events, but how's about combining them to WNPF World Naked Pie Fight?

We did a chocolate and vanilla pudding fight at a Naturist Society event. It IS a fun activity.
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