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Re: Visiting Oregon, and the only County with an anti-nude ordiance
« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2017, 05:24:53 AM »
The Meetup people opened up a free setup for those that which desire political action. It is popular and it is civic minded to encourage and promote civic, political interaction. They are not discriminating about the political action; it can be right, or left, middle, or any concern. That's American Democracy, not sedition. It is a traditional practice guaranteed by the Constitution. The right to assembly, and free speech and petition, and protest, to get together to bitch and moan, to find group action and organization, to strike, to promote sound, lawful honest government, or to begin pressure toward revolution and change. This is what we do and they are supporting that.

Perhaps you have a misconception. The fervor isnít that there is a lost election, or a change in policy, but how it has been attained. These people, which are taking action are upset that the elections have been rigged, by media, by political parties in bed with oligarchy and corporate power, so much so that the actual will of the people has been usurped. Whether you agree with that, that is the way all of these people are seeing it. The government is seen as no longer legitimate and getting progressively more fake, just like the South American Republics have been for years. People feel screwed and see the process corrupted. Theyíre standing up for their country, because they see that it is being destroyed, bought and sold by a few. They see each other as patriots.

It isnít just about this administration, or the recent election.The whole thing is considered patriotic, and love for American principles. They see that a dangerous lie sits in power. They know that this has been occurring for decades and has escalated. They are just getting the pitchforks out. How would you react if you thought that your country was no longer yours, and it was being robbed? Would you accept that? The camel just admitted to itself that it is time for the chiropractor.

Thanks for the heads up and the info. Iím still seeing Meetup as a meaningful catalyst to democratic process.

The current trends favor a reaction that you often donít agree with. Iím sure that Meetup is aware of the practical effects of their gift, which makes this gift lean left, or middle of the road from my way of thinking. But, next election, when the pendulum swings back, if it is allowed to, it will benefit the rightwing, even more. Nobody is supposed to just sit back and take it. I don't have a problem with women's rights, equality, justice, or democracy and I know that none of these were attained by sitting back, but by getting uppity. I don't have a problem with Meetup doing a spinoff to respond to a need. There new gift will also set the political aside from the regular Meetup and not color or clutter it.

I tend to focus on what good there is and commonality, no matter what the others political perspective. I wouldn't boycott you.

When we live in a fascist system, which controls the flow of information and communication, anything is fair game. Hitler got around to suppressing FKK eventually and at that point, nothing could be done about it. Thatís what Iím saying.

So, I hope that my lack of ownership of a political stance and merely discussing the resistance as "them" mitigates and depoliticizes me.
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Re: Visiting Oregon, and the only County with an anti-nude ordiance
« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2017, 02:38:15 PM »
The Meetup people opened up a free setup for those that which desire political action. It is popular and it is civic minded to encourage and promote civic, political interaction. They are not discriminating about the political action; it can be right, or left, middle, or any concern.
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Yes, JB, I'm not going to discuss your political opinions. Meetup management created and organized 1000 local leftist "RESIST" activist groups all across America to whine and promote sedition after their candidate lost the election.  "RESIST" groups have caused riots, beatings, and socialist violence in many American cities.

Meetup corporation used their facilities and mailing lists for destructive partisan political agendas.  Meetup is NOT a suitable web site for non-political nudist activities. 

The organizers of the Oregon Nude hikes needs to find a different web site such as Facebook or MeWe or create a private web site for their nude hiking information.   Rebus, are you still on this forum or did you just drop that advertising message and run?

I don't live very far from Oregon.  Its about 1/2 day drive to the venue.  I was curious about the details of the nude hiking group, but the web site is limited.


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Re: Visiting Oregon, and the only County with an anti-nude ordiance
« Reply #32 on: June 15, 2017, 04:26:08 PM »
Going to be out naked on the beach near Newport, Oregon, USA, next week.  I'll try to get some photos. 
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Re: Visiting Oregon, and the only County with an anti-nude ordiance
« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2017, 07:19:34 AM »
Sorry, I've been a bit out of touch lately.

The planned day hikes to various destinations in the Squaw Mt. area are still being finalized which should be in place the end of June.  I understand there is still one lodge room available for someone who needs it, such as a long distance traveler.

Yes, the details and enrollment are being handled via a Meetup group, which is free but moderated and not public.  One must simply create an account and join the group.  The event organizer is Steve Bosbach of the Siskiyou Hiking Bares.

I have been a part of Meetup groups for a couple of years and have seen no political anything and no spamming as a result, so I don't know where those concerns are coming from.  Perhaps one just needs to be selective about what particular groups to join as there are many.

From Steve: "There will be a couple of shorter hikes, but most will be in the 4 to 7 mile range. River hikes can be gentle with little elevation gain, but hiking to a ridge or lookout can be taxing if one isn't accustomed to this terrain. You will be well advised to get in some conditioning hikes prior to the HONAT, both to make the hiking easier on you, and to check out foot gear and equipment."  One of the destinations is Bagby Hot Springs.  Note that these hikes take up much of the day and you will probably want to pack your lunch, water and other essentials.

It's shaping up to be a memorable event.  I'm looking forward to it.
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Re: Visiting Oregon, and the only County with an anti-nude ordiance
« Reply #34 on: June 21, 2017, 06:02:20 PM »
Here I am in Oregon at the beach.  Its really to cold and windy to be naked on the beach.  Everyone has long shirts and jackets. 

A complication is that my wife has become more and more opposed to me going naked.  She's all about "what will people think."   More later.
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Re: Visiting Oregon, and the only County with an anti-nude ordiance
« Reply #35 on: June 21, 2017, 06:22:40 PM »
I am sorry that your wife is taking a stronger stand against your inclination to exercise your personal right to clothesfree endeavors.  The body shaming seems to impact the female gender more personally than us males.  And the bond between spouses often complicates individual expression.  She probably believes that your exposure will reflect on her as well.  Good luck in your search for middle ground.

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Re: Visiting Oregon, and the only County with an anti-nude ordiance
« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2017, 12:18:11 AM »
Middle ground?! I'm waiting for more later.

Sorry about the weather. We have to deal with unusual heat, the opposite. The Rainbow Gathering is beginning up there. I didn't want to miss this one. It will be classic. No State or Federal nude laws and lots of west coast weirdness.
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Re: Visiting Oregon, and the only County with an anti-nude ordiance
« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2017, 01:27:02 AM »
Quote from: Safebare
Good luck in your search for middle ground.
As I get older, hrrumphhh!, I worry less and less about opinions.
My loved ones I care about. Others, not so much.

The only true impediment to me is the legal aspect.

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Re: Visiting Oregon, and the only County with an anti-nude ordiance
« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2017, 03:19:03 PM »
I guess my term 'middle ground' could be summed up in one word; tolerance. 
Early in our relationship and marriage, my wife was nude as much as me.  We would garden nude, skinny dip and would participate in clothing optional public events.  Almost always nude around the house.   That all changed as our daughter matured.  She felt vulnerable to public opinion and the threat of police interference once the daughter was grade school age.  It seemed that as time went by, she became less tolerant of the naturist lifestyle, and more critical of my practice of it.  I tried to respect her wishes.  She died 10 years ago, when our daughter was 11.

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Re: Visiting Oregon, and the only County with an anti-nude ordiance
« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2017, 05:01:23 AM »
Your daughter is a well adjusted, tolerant, no body issues type of person? Or, was harm done?
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Re: Visiting Oregon, and the only County with an anti-nude ordiance
« Reply #40 on: June 24, 2017, 08:52:23 PM »
I am sorry that your wife is taking a stronger stand against your inclination to exercise your personal right to clothesfree endeavors.  The body shaming seems to impact the female gender more personally than us males.  And the bond between spouses often complicates individual expression.  She probably believes that your exposure will reflect on her as well.  Good luck in your search for middle ground.

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That has a lot to do with it.  "What will people say" Is a big deal for most women.   Much more so than for men.

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Re: Visiting Oregon, and the only County with an anti-nude ordiance
« Reply #41 on: June 24, 2017, 11:29:03 PM »

I feel both comforted and saddened.
Always assumed your wife, Bob, was extremely tolerant of your choice to be naked.
The 'what will people think' nonsense is one of the many thongs in the emotional lash of my wife's anti-naturism too and Safebare's description of his wife's progressive hardening of heart towards something that was in early years a matter of toleration or participation also rings a familiar note in my situation.


Like Jbee, I'm therefore anticipating with interest you sharing the 'more later' that you mentioned, Bob


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Re: Visiting Oregon, and the only County with an anti-nude ordiance
« Reply #42 on: June 26, 2017, 03:41:52 AM »
Yes, we'll be glad to share a conspiratory strategies to get her into line...or condolence, and encouragement. ;D
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« Reply #43 on: June 26, 2017, 06:28:06 PM »
Your daughter is a well adjusted, tolerant, no body issues type of person? Or, was harm done?
Jbee
Thanks Jbee.  Hard to tell at this point.  Loosing a parent at a young age always has an impact.
My daughter is strong-willed, tolerant and versatile.  She is very confident in herself physically.  At 16, she competed in the Miss Teen Texas Pageant; yes, I was a 'Pageant Mom'.  She is a 'gear head' who has taken my position as the family mechanic.  She gets modelling assignments, but enjoys being behind the camera more.  She is studying business at Texas A&M while juggling her otherwise busy life.  She never expressed an understanding of my 'nudist life', but I feel she fits into the mode of other young adults regarding nudity; 'what's the big deal?'.

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Re: Visiting Oregon, and the only County with an anti-nude ordiance
« Reply #44 on: June 26, 2017, 09:48:44 PM »
Sounds like she has her head together and her feet on the ground.

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She never expressed an understanding of my 'nudist life', but I feel she fits into the mode of other young adults regarding nudity; 'what's the big deal?'.
Did you explain your lifestyle choices?

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