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jbeegoode

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Nudity in Temperature Extremes
« on: July 12, 2019, 11:28:11 PM »
We have discussed this here and there. I've been writing and article and have found some interesting stuff. The "Iceman" Wim Hof has been adding to our knowledge the last few years. I've begun some experimentation with his principles. It all follows some other monk stuff and our Scottish friend's ease with nude hiking where he lives. And then there are those rockin' photos that JMF produces.

A more broad presentation of the concept can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gYoFGQ9pVU

We can do these things. We're supposed to do these things. Much of it we are supposed to do easily and naturally. I was out working at 105F today and taking the clothing off made all of the difference. Although I have discovered that wrapping and carrying a hot garden hose at those temperatures in direct d sunlight can be hazardous without a covering. I wore gloves, too.
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Re: Nudity in Temperature Extremes
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2019, 12:58:03 PM »
In theory, we can and usually do. The UPS man wears shorts all year long. We only rarely cover our faces no matter how cold, although where I live, it doesn't get below zero Fahrenheit very often at all and to our relatives in Minnesota, that isn't even cold.

I think it's an important topic, somewhat more so if one is interested in being nude. But conditions vary widely, even wildly, so generalizations will have a lot of exceptions. In heat and cold both, our own experiences seem to defy everything we've always heard. We don't die that easily, evidently.

Although I have frequently been outside and nude when temperatures were well below 50 degrees F., I haven't been out for very long like that. But I've hiked all day nude in temperatures of around 90 and didn't seem to suffer for it. In fact, I never seem to drink as much water as 'they' say you should. Even more surprising, I don't even remember sweating as much as I normally do. It may be that my memory is bad, though. But as I said, conditions vary. I was hiking in the hills (either up or down the whole way) and in the shade nearly the whole time, which may be the key factor. Also, the weather was very humid, which is typical. Part of the way was along a ridge with a light breeze that may have made a difference. I never got thirsty, either, but I did drink some water. This was all with wearing a small pack.

In contrast, here at home I usually take a walk about every day or two, wearing clothes and carrying the same pack. The walk takes me through the woods, with some gentle climbing, and a little time in the sun. Half of the distance is on a muddy trail and usually includes wading a creek once or twice, depending on which trail I take. When I get home, most of my clothes are soaked with sweat (and I'm a little muddy, too). For more than one reason I can't be nude and even shorts are a bad idea because of where I walk. Interesting difference, although I don't get particularly thirsty. But the sweat just drips from my face, which bothers me more than anything. 

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Re: Nudity in Temperature Extremes
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2019, 02:26:53 PM »

I skim watched a couple of the videos and that ability to be resilient in extreme cold is quite admirable if a little foolhardy perhaps.  I guess if you practice it over a long time, like anything you learn and train yourself to endure.  Quite useful for us in the UK if, like me you care to pop out in frosty weather.  A bit more endurance on those occasions would be nice.  To test my endurance I occasionally turn the tap progressively to full cold in the shower.  Never can stick it for too long - maybe 15-30 secs at a time.  It generates the usual gasping reflex but not usually too much shivering.  The one odd thing is it gives me an erection!  I've no idea why and it goes away when the temperature is turned up to warm again! Strange but true :D !
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Re: Nudity in Temperature Extremes
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2019, 02:08:35 AM »
I suspect that the erection is an adrenal thing. The body gets excited for many reasons, and excited is a state that nourishes erections. Yea, a cold shower isn't supposed to do that. Likewise, one might find excitement and the associated boing, when in strange situations naked, or having sex and ripe for arrest. This of course is potential , no rule of thumb.

It's so hot here! I'll have to wait to experiment. Even the water in the cold water tap is coming out hot! No, lie!
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Re: Nudity in Temperature Extremes
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2019, 04:26:32 PM »
There is considerable excitement in nude hiking, at least for me, but it has never resulted in an erection. I don't know. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

Humans presumably evolved or perhaps were created in warm places. It might be possible that evolution made us hairy, not the other way round. It's just as likely we confuse migration with evolution. In any event, human body hair doesn't really provide us with that much thermal covering and besides, women are not so hairy as men, most of them, anyway.

Like much of the country, we're having a heat wave. It officially made it to 100F yesterday at one place. But I still got out for my almost daily walk in the woods, which is about two miles round trip, just about an hour, depending on what I do along the way (sit and look at things or stop and talk to people). It wasn't so bad but I left the house at 8:00 AM. It wasn't bad at all but about half-way back is when I really start perspiring. By then, however, I'm starting back up the hill and maybe that makes all the difference. Being a Sunday morning, there were lots of people out already. I'm not the only one who goes walking around here.

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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2019, 06:00:12 PM »
Yesterday didn't seem quite as bad so instead of my usual early morning walk I went to a local wildlife management area and enjoyed the hot but not oppressive weather. I was going to do a circle route from where I pared the car until I was startled by the sound of thunder. Due to part of the tree canopy the storm was not visual but I did have to transverse an open area to get back to the relative safety of the SUV. Combination of emotions at the end; the feeling of rain caressing your naked body and wondering what emotions rescue crews would have finding a naked man struck by lightning?
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Re: Nudity in Temperature Extremes
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2019, 09:09:48 AM »
Yesterday started damp but warm. By mid-morning it sunny and hot. I decided to go dor a dun from work, wearing just a pair of shorts, about five miles. When I got back, I had a five minute cool shower and put on trousers and shirt to get back to my desk. By the time I got upstairs, I was sweating profusely and wanted to rip off my clothes, which would have given my colleagues an interesting surprise! After half an hour or so, and aided by limited air-con, I settled down but was still pleased to leave early. Back at home, it was too hot to do anything in the garden, so I relaxed with a glass of Pimms....

The temperature reached the dizzy heights (at least for the English Lake District) of 29C.
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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2019, 02:16:14 PM »
I have been in the Lake District in the U.K.; got lost. It reminded me of back home in West Virginia, except there were fewer trees and the buildings looked newer.

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Re: Nudity in Temperature Extremes
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2019, 10:22:58 PM »
Quote from: nuduke
Never can stick it for too long - maybe 15-30 secs at a time.  It generates the usual gasping reflex but not usually too much shivering.
I have experienced this in cold water (<65°F). There was no shivering but I was unable to get enough oxygen. Like being extremely winded after a long run. I asked my doc about it and he called it Diver’s Response.

I was on Catalina Island and the water temp was about 60°F and I couldn’t catch my breath while swimming. I moved to shallow water and allowed my body to acclimate for about 10 min. and then I was fine. It also happened while swimming in a mountain lake at about 5000 ft. Depends on how long you can tolerate the cold.

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Re: Nudity in Temperature Extremes
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2019, 11:30:30 PM »

We are having a heatwave in the UK, temperatures in the south may well hit a record 37degC tomorrow.  About 7.30 this evening after a hot, hot day with high humidity, I went out to empty some trash into the bins.  Gosh the air was wonderful.  That afterglow of a hot day making the air not warm, not cool and feeling like velvet.  I did the bins and then went out into the garden and walked the lawn in this so comfortable and welcoming soft evening air.  I will go out for a moment after full dark and taste the progress of the night.
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Re: Nudity in Temperature Extremes
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2019, 11:41:10 PM »
Naked, I assume.

We're getting rain, spotty rain. I've pitched a tent under the porch of the sweat. It has noseem all around so the air can flow through, I can see the sky, the silhouettes and smell it all, as I drift into the moment and fall asleep.

When it is hot, sleeping outside is heaven, in a quiet natural place.

I suppose that you would need a mosquito net over there.

May I suggest that you all invest in a dab of camping equipment, dig out what you've got in the attic, get naked and enjoy. Any mattress from lawn furniture, a sheet and less than $25, or equivalent for a net.

People used to always sleep outside in the southwest, back before coolers for homes. Special screened in rooms were built, some on rooftops. Egyptians had it down, too. When you add naked to that, it is lovely...romantic.
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Re: Nudity in Temperature Extremes
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2019, 10:07:45 AM »
forecast is for the hottest day ever for southern uk,  local forecast is 29 deg,   were getting a lot of wittering on tv about how to keep cool.   reckon ill get the ride on mower out and do under the apple trees, soon have to let the grass grow under the trees cos of the fallen apples .

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Re: Nudity in Temperature Extremes
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2019, 11:48:15 AM »
On the subject of extreme temperatures, a lot depends on what you're accustomed to, which is what I guess is called acclimatization. Cold for one place would be thought to be warm in another place. Both individual tolerances and preferences enter into the matter, too. An interesting thing, though, is how differently the local people have traditionally responded to the climate they live in over the centuries. Some, in very hot places, wear next to nothing, or used to. Then there are those in other very hot places who cover themselves head to toe, or at least head to ankle. On the other hand, some of those very hot places may not be as hot as we imagine all the time and because we don't have the living experience, our logic may be flawed. Deserts are not always hot and supposedly the temperatures in the desert drop a lot at night. But there are places where it's always hot, to be sure, and places where it is always cold.

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Re: Nudity in Temperature Extremes
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2019, 06:44:05 PM »
Win Hof says and is proving, that less that a week is required to acclimate to even extreme temperatures.

I'm used to acclimating to hot summer over the course of a month or months as I gather my all over tan to protect me from the sun overexposure.

My winter acclimatization hasn't happened as readily. That has to do with my attitude, but I'm working to change that. Often, the cold suddenly snaps here, or pops in for a few days and then it gets fairly nice again.

The temperature will change 30F and sometimes 40F degrees over the course of a day. Just up the mountain a tad, elevation will have a dramatic effect.
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Re: Nudity in Temperature Extremes
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2019, 12:10:57 AM »

Well we had 3 glorious days with record temperatures on Thursday but today (Friday) cloud and rain have moved in again!  Good 'ol British weather.
During the hot days my dear wife got very frustrated trying to keep some clothes on me!  I mostly blatantly rejected her ministrations to put something on and only complied occasionally.  I sunbathed and have a bad case of sun/heat urticaria to show for it which I am prone to.  It's a curse - I feel like Job.  Whilst I want to be naked and naturist, a nagging wife, a sun allergy and a tendency to get bitten by midges is my lot.  Ye gods, you couldn't have just endowed me with a nice slim body, a compliant wife and a tendency to go attractively brown with very little exposure....like normal people do, could you?  Oh no indeed, I have to get saddled with an anti naturist, a pasty complexion, a beer belly (not from beer) and a variety of autoimmune responses to a hot day!  Bastards.
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