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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #675 on: October 22, 2018, 07:32:52 PM »
I'd like to explore that area on the ground. It looks so beautiful and I've heard many good things. The closest that I have been to it was cruising up to 100mph in a high end BMW, on the Interstate, back in the 80's. Even back in that flamboyant time, I thought about getting more intimate with a special place.
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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #676 on: October 23, 2018, 06:33:55 PM »
I sometimes modify my pics by resizing them in a graphics program. I edit the copy and keep the original. It cuts down on the file size. I try to shoot for a file of 250-400 k to make it easier and quicker to upload.

Yeah, I could see why they were called The Smokey Mountains. At the park entrance you could see how the road simply disappeared into the clouds. I was there in late October of í83 so it was it was also a little cool as I recall. I had camped somewhere near Richmond on my way up and there was frost on the tent in the morning.

That was a great trip. 2 weeks of camping on the road.

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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #677 on: October 24, 2018, 08:46:33 PM »

Really interesting report, Rollo
It's funny how several of your encounters were not quite, e.g. the people you passed 15 feet behind.
It's good to hear of someone with your strength of character to be confident in doffing your clothes even in areas where the chance of encounters is high and asserting your choice to be naked and testing people's reactions.  In all the years of encounter reporting both here and on TSNS, there have been a few people reported to the authorities, a few people that have encountered objectors and the like but no one who has been attacked or abusively spoken to whilst out on the trail.  (Verify or refute my assertions, colleagues, please.  Is my memory accurate?)


Very best of luck in your future hiking, let's hear about it here and maybe you'll get the knack of reducing your pics to be able to post a few.


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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #678 on: October 24, 2018, 08:47:49 PM »

BTW - My month has been unexciting in the naturist department apart from the swim.
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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #679 on: October 25, 2018, 06:51:36 PM »

Really interesting report, Rollo
It's funny how several of your encounters were not quite, e.g. the people you passed 15 feet behind.
It's good to hear of someone with your strength of character to be confident in doffing your clothes even in areas where the chance of encounters is high and asserting your choice to be naked and testing people's reactions.  In all the years of encounter reporting both here and on TSNS, there have been a few people reported to the authorities, a few people that have encountered objectors and the like but no one who has been attacked or abusively spoken to whilst out on the trail.  (Verify or refute my assertions, colleagues, please.  Is my memory accurate?)


Very best of luck in your future hiking, let's hear about it here and maybe you'll get the knack of reducing your pics to be able to post a few.


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Who got reported to the authorities? There was an arrest like 15 years ago in your isles, on the side of the road, or a golf course, I believe.

All over the internet and publications in anecdotal remarks that I compiled, only 1 or2% of encounters on the trail result in objections of any kind. Approx. 20% confuse people as to how to react, like where to place eyes. Best results are when one acts as if nothing is amiss in the wardrobe.

Results my vary, with attitude, projections and place of occurrence, like near trailheads.
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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #680 on: October 26, 2018, 12:13:14 AM »
Well, Jbee, maybe its just me. 
This last time didn't involve a report to the authorities, there was no complaint, but I'm appearing before a federal magistrate November 5th to argue citations received for being nude on land patrolled by the federal parks and wildlife.  Well, that's part of my defense.  I was on State property, the beach, when cited, not on federal property, the McFaddin Wildlife Refuge that abuts the beach.  And of course I was cited under State law, because I wasn't violating federal laws, I wasn't violating the state laws either, btw.  My attorney is confident the case will not see the light of a courtroom.  But then, justice is blind, especially in this great state.
I was reported earlier in the year, on the beach, in another wildlife refuge, the Padre Island National Seashore.  There is a part of this park that is blocked off from traffic and can rightfully be called federal property.  You can only hike, bike or ride a horse into this part of the park.  It has long been a favorite spot for the barefoot all over types.
The custom is to remain covered until you pass the families and other textiles that may congregate near the pilings that separate the park from the public beach.  There weren't many out that particular day, but I wrapped my sarong around my waist and proceeded down the beach.  I came upon a family; mom, dad and young daughter not too far into the park.  They were enjoying the wonderful day, looking for shells and watching the shore birds.  I always keep a pleasant demeanor, not wanting to look odd or suspicious in any way.  They greeted me as I approached and we each commented on what a great day for the beach.  I never strayed from my path at the water's edge and simply continued on, thinking nothing out of the ordinary of our interchange.
Several yards further down the beach was a twenty something female with a large Labrador.  She was throwing sticks and generally playing with the dog.  The dog ran over to me as soon as it noticed my presence.  The young lady followed yelling at the dog to come back.  I was petting the dog when she got close enough to clip on the leash. I explained that there was no reason for concern, I have a similar dog at home.  We chatted a bit, before I continued my trek. 
Okay, maybe I was feeling a bit of overconfidence, maybe enjoying the experience a bit too much.  Anyway, I had put some distance between me and the parties I had passed.  They could certainly have seen that I had removed my sarong, if they were paying close attention, and maybe noted the consistent color of my body, but they couldn't have seen that I wasn't wearing a thong or other discrete cover.  I didn't give it any thought and expected them to be in the same frame of mind.
I walked maybe a mile down the deserted beach, laid my sarong on the sand and proceeded to enjoy the sun, sand and salt air.  At one point I decided to venture further down the beach looking at shells, driftwood and other things populating the beach.  There was no one in sight.  I carried a sock to cover my genitals, just in case I encountered others.  On the way back to my sarong I noticed a male walking my way.  He was wearing typical board shorts and appeared to be in his 30's.  I figured he wasn't used to running into naked gentlemen so I donned the sock.  I noticed that something behind me had gotten his attention, turned around to spot a park service truck headed toward us.
When they got up to me, they started to ask me about my attire and if that was all i had to wear.  We weren't far from my sarong, so i led them over to show it to them.  They searched my belongings and asked if I had spoken with anyone since I arrived at the beach.  I described my 2 earlier encounters, then they asked if I would be surprised to learn that a complaint had been received on me.  Apparently, the family stopped at the park entrance guard and reported a naked man on the beach.
By that time I was wearing the sarong and they asked if that was how I was dressed at the time I spoke with them.  I said 'of course'. 
'Why would they report you then?'
'I don't know!'
I brought up the encounter with the lady further down the beach (with the dog), that would certainly have played out differently if I was naked.
Anyway, they proceeded to grill me, detain me and threaten me before asking for my vehicle description (so they could run the plates).  They said that they were going to contact the family and track down the lady with the dog.  If anything in my story didn't check out, they would come back before i could leave the beach.  The last thing they said was, 'this is not over!'
That was the last I heard from them.
So, we are being harassed in certain areas where nudity is quite harmless, but severely frowned upon.  I think the statistics work in most areas.  Those statistics match my experience in and around Austin, rural streams and lakes and the like.  They don't work in areas with a reputation for illicit nakedness (whatever that means).  The McFaddin Wildlife Refuge has seen some issues with cruisers and exhibitionists.  There are messages painted on driftwood and park signs advising kids to stay out.  I avoid those areas, but the reputation stains all.
I will continue my advocacy of simple public nudity in non-threatening locations.  I will fight the injustices and enjoy my naked bike rides and wild swims.

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« Reply #681 on: October 26, 2018, 03:58:46 AM »

All together, I enjoyed over 20 miles and around 9 hours of nude hiking.  When I bumped into people, I acted naturally and found that it didnít present any problems.  Always great to enjoy nature trails naturally ... eager for the next opportunity.
Rollo

Wonderful outings Rollo.  Acting "normal" when encountering other hikers is how I always respond too.  I've never been arrested or ever harassed.  Educational for the other hikers and sunshine for me.  I imagine that some small percentage of them will get "permission" by seeing me hiking naked and try it themselves eventually. 

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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #682 on: October 26, 2018, 04:02:46 AM »
That was the last I heard from them.
So, we are being harassed in certain areas where nudity is quite harmless, but severely frowned upon.  I think the statistics work in most areas.  Those statistics match my experience in and around Austin, rural streams and lakes and the like.  They don't work in areas with a reputation for illicit nakedness (whatever that means).  The McFaddin Wildlife Refuge has seen some issues with cruisers and exhibitionists.  There are messages painted on driftwood and park signs advising kids to stay out.  I avoid those areas, but the reputation stains all.
I will continue my advocacy of simple public nudity in non-threatening locations.  I will fight the injustices and enjoy my naked bike rides and wild swims.
~Safebare

Over the years I've heard a lot of negative comments about National Park employees at the Jersey Shore.  Maybe its something in the water.  I doubt they got an actual complaint.  Looking for an excuse to harass citizens.   And, of course, they can drive their truck on the beach so they don't have to walk from a parking lot themselves.  Cops are 100x more likely to harass a hiker when they don't have to get out of their cop car or truck.

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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #683 on: October 26, 2018, 06:47:48 PM »
Hey, I just saw a naked guy way down the beach, isn't always a complaint always. It is just someone being helpful to enforce the law. An alarmed parent, "what about the kids," maybe. A boss that has decided to harass nudes and clean up the beach is the real compliant-ant. I think that they knew they had nothing, just scare tactics to get nudes off the beach in general.

Still, I don't "know", so how do you see it?
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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #684 on: October 26, 2018, 08:34:44 PM »
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Who got reported to the authorities?

One of our regulars, which forum and which member I donít recall, got hauled in for an incident. I am fairly certain it was in the UK.

I think it was eventually dropped, but not before an appearance at court.

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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #685 on: October 26, 2018, 09:34:31 PM »
It was old news even when it was told in TSNS.
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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #686 on: October 27, 2018, 12:30:01 AM »
A boss that has decided to harass nudes and clean up the beach is the real compliant-ant. I think that they knew they had nothing, just scare tactics to get nudes off the beach in general.

Still, I don't "know", so how do you see it?
Jbee


They rule more by fear and violence than by law.  A slow day at the cop shop is often the real "complaint."  If no actual crime has happened they go out and harass citizens minding our own business.  They find anyone who violated some detail of "code" and rob or intimidate us. 

If it was a nice day for nudists to be out walking on the beach then it was a nice afternoon for cops to get out of their office and go for a drive on the beach.  They need to harass some citizens to justify their overpaid jobs. 

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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #687 on: October 27, 2018, 01:25:26 PM »
I don't believe a word of that.

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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #688 on: October 28, 2018, 09:25:28 AM »
It happens. The town next door had a police chief with a big budget. A 25,000 population of mostly retired people, with upper middle class had a swat team installed. They were so busy making revenue sources out of people and passersby that...traffic stop, f regularly had three patrol cars. I won't go on an don. They need something to justify themselves. They abuse their positions. They take advantage of their situation, They compete for th echerry job positions. Depends on the situation.
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Re: How was your month for Free Range Naturism?
« Reply #689 on: October 28, 2018, 02:47:21 PM »
Most American cities get about 1/3 of their total city budget from the TRAFFIC TAX, a.k.a. highway robbery.
 
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