How was your month for Free Range Naturism?

[Greenbare Woods]

Well that fired up my analytical engine!  I looked up the UK Office of National Statistics for survival rates.  I found the number of male survivors from a starting population of 100,000 to exact age 80 for 2024 was 60,323.  So contrary to your assertion, Jbee, at least for the UK it seems that most guys Bob's age have not died!  A majority 60% still survive.
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I hope these stats don't give anyone the collywobbles!  I think it's a very optimistic outlook if we can keep our health and brains in good condition. Our fathers' generation would mostly have gone to meet the the great naturist in the sky in their late 60's or early 70's.  In 2000 average life expectancy for men was a little over 75 and for someone born around 1925 (my dad) life expectancy was only about 60!
I love statistics!! John

Interesting statistics, John.  Do we trust government data on this?  I have read all my life that the average life expectancy for men in my generation was about 75 years.  if more of us have survived to age 80 that's a big plus.  Last year I attended a 60th reunion of my High School Class of 1963. Much of it was a memorial for classmates who had died.  Some classmates died in wars half a century ago, and from other causes, but the survivors at our 2023 reunion are becoming fewer in number.  My father died at age 72, so I've outlived him by several years. 

Live long and prosper. 

[Fellsnude]

Glad to read all that, chaps! I like the wide-ranging conversation here.
Meanwhile how was September for FRN? Absolutely dire! Just the one good walk of about 7 miles previously reported. There were a few other days when the weather was OK but I was too busy one way or another. In fact we had the only week of mostly summer-like weather for 2024 in September. Mainly it's been the year of perpetual October.
Looking forward to a week on Lanzarote later this month.

[jbeegoode]

I was going on a stat that had average life expectancy pegged at 78. Average, being half-ish, would already be gone by 80. My bad, apparently. Maybe median? I suppose that all of those guys that I pronounced dead, are happy to find themselves actually alive this morning. I hope I didn't scare any one of them. Reminds me of Monte Python, Holy Grail, "I ain't dead yet!"

Another statistic was that at age 69, I was told that 3 out of 4 of us would be gone in the next 12 years. Probably a younger guy's presentation. Their always in such a hurry.

So, if we are still corresponding in 13.8 years, I'd strongly feel that that would be a cause for a celebration. I commit to getting together and doing a nude hike to commemorate that event at that time. Haven't we been doing this longer than that? Piece of cake, right? Summer of 38?
Jbee

[nuduke]

Bob and anyone lese interested...,
My life expectancy stats are for the UK but the following came from most recent data from the US Social Security Administration "life expectancy for a 75 year old American male is... total life expectancy of 85.46 years".  So very similar.  I'm quoting the stats for people who have already reached 75  or 80 years.  The overall averages for the whole population are much lower because that includes everyone of all ages and if a baby or a 20 year old dies then that skews the average downwards.
This page is interesting  US total life expectancy is 79 and UK 82.  I gingerly venture to suspect that this difference may be because a greater proportion of people in the US are murdered!  UK Intentional homicide rate is 1.2 per 100,000 population but USA is 4.7!  I assume homicide tends to favour the lower quartiles of population.  Bob, whilst you are not far off in your quote of 75 years, the US expectancy was that around the 1970s.  I certainly remember from my teens in the 60s and 70s that people who retired at 65 would be gone before 75.  That seems to tally with historical data.
CAVEAT:  My stats are from the 1st website I come across that looks vaguely authoritative.  I can't vouch for the accuracy although US SSA and UK ONS should be pretty dang accurate.
Jbee, I'd like to think that if we ever get together again it would be way sooner as in 13.8 years we may not be fit enough!
John

[jbeegoode]

Ditto on the "Sooner" Nuduke. I'll be ready and fit. Gotta believe and keep movin', and it's a walk in the cake.
Jbee

[Greenbare Woods]

Bob and anyone lese interested...,
 "life expectancy for a 75 year old American male is... total life expectancy of 85.46 years".  So very similar.  I'm quoting the stats for people who have already reached 75  or 80 years.  The overall averages for the whole population are much lower because that includes everyone of all ages and if a baby or a 20 year old dies then that skews the average downwards.
John

Yes, those of us who have lived 75 or more years are not the ones who died at age 3 or 34 or 68.   We have a longer life expectancy than the overall average.  We are a select group of longer living men. 

I have also read recently that overall life expectancy in the USA has declined during the past decade. That is perhaps due to sudden increases in death rates from cancer, cardio, stroke, etc. since 2021, especially in younger people.  And we are getting a lot of imported people from cultures that aren't as healthy overall. 

[jbeegoode]

 Also, we had over one million earlier deaths from the Covid mess contributing to that, plus the deaths associated with nerves and depression issues.

I suppose that the averages are still coming down from stress over this election and too much TV...suicide?

I'm not so sure about the new imports, Bob. I've read that healthy people get seduced by the Standard American Diet and fall apart with all of the acquired diseases that we suffer from, after immigrating. Many have a more natural whole foods diet and fasting out of necessity where they came from. Processed foods replace that.
Jbee

[jbeegoode]

Wow! Things do fly by when your having stress. It's the twelfth already! October reports are nil!

October was a busy mess of activity, but not naked much out and about. Hosted several sweats, put in the new winter garden, harvested the the summer crop, fixed this and that.

Now I've got a stucco project to complete before the Thanksgiving Celebration and in-between a trip to see the Fall leaf colors and hot springs naked.

We went from 100F's to winter (Tucson winter) in a couple of days. It was 100F one afternoon, and then windy cold the next day, dropping to 36 that evening) There will be a touch of Indian Summer, which is only weird climate change stuff for us this week. Too hot to too cold! I heard about some nasty stuff up north and a few warmer than us days back east. La Nina is back, warmer and dryer here in the southwest, but that prediction can be scary because that has meant historic no rain for a year during a drought. We'll see. I'm in town now and my well won't go dry, but my garden's food goes up in cost with the use of more precious piped in water.

So, been close to home, but for a few evenings dancing and some social, so naked all of the time, days on end. I put on a sweat shirt during those cold days working the garden! Did a couple of loads of towels (the sweat and showers use a few each time).
Jbee


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[Davie]

It's been a poor month with dismal skies and damp underfoot. An anticyclonic gloom!... but today it was better. I managed a seven mile walk across the local  fields. It was chilly and rather cloudy but no wind. I managed a short distance naked.  It was lovely to be out again and it blew the cobwebs away. I glad I went out today as the forecast is more unsettled weather. I'm fortunate to be able to go to a weekly naturist swim so I do make the most of this opportunity.

Davie

[nuduke]

We are in the dreadful drag up to Christmas with cold, damp weather mostly although we had a couple of sunny days most of which I had to be inside a building doing other things.  Yesterday night we had a few inches of snow.  Today (19th) I had to drive through it for about 15-20minutes to get some dental work done - oh joy.  Actually most of the roads had cleared up by the time I needed to leave (2pm).
Throughout today the snow has been melting and so we don't have beautiful white swards, crisp winter walks across fields or happy children playing on sleds and snowballing, we have dirty brown slush in piles at the side of the road and the chore of digging the car out of the drive.
Nudism time has been hard to come by as I'm silly busy at present and if I am honest, a bit stressed with all the things I need to do and want to do.  The latter tend to get pushed out by the former.  For instance, I wanted to catch up on the forum and miracle of miracles, due to a cancellation, my dentist saw mw about 30mins early (I had arrived rather too early) so I had more of the afternoon than I expected.  Put simply, I have been pushed and shoved by boring and grim but necessary stuff cropping up and it's now 6.16pm.  Basically lost 4 hours from all the demons and Gremlins that conspire to steal your time and not really any less stressed for the experience of answering their call and clearing them out of the way!  Hey Ho.
Hopefully this evening I can give some time to my latest bit of artwork, that I started this morning at my art group - Happily there are some nice things - It's not all shit shovelling!
The year has now progressed far enough to be certain of no more outdoors naturism until spring creeps up eventually.  I look forward to some frosty clear nights and the occasional brief 'air bath' in the crisp, cold air of a gin-clear, shining starlit night.
John

[Davie]

Eight days since my last walk
 It's been lovely out today  cold crisp and sunny. Alas I had  lunch time meal to attend (which I'd prepaid!) which was enjoyable but a walk chance missed. Perhaps tomorrow.
I've got a club swim over the weekend too. Also  I did manage a naked snow angel  the other evening.

Davie

[Greenbare Woods]

We are in the dreadful drag up to Christmas with cold, damp weather mostly although we had a couple of sunny days most of which I had to be inside a building doing other things.  Yesterday night we had a few inches of snow.  Today (19th) I had to drive through it for about 15-20minutes to get some dental work done - oh joy.  Actually most of the roads had cleared up by the time I needed to leave (2pm).
John

It's that time of year John.  We're having that too. 
Big Pacific storm last night felled a lot of trees on homes, cars, and power lines over near Seattle.  We're getting snow and then rain.  More than double our average November rain so far.  Cold, windy, wet, not decent for being outside naked at all.