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Permanude
« on: August 28, 2016, 03:44:10 AM »
I ran across this concept on another discussion forum.   Its apparently becoming popular on twitter, tumblr, and other places.   I had to Google it.

Permanude comes from some short stores where unruly people can be punished by being forced to be naked permanently or semi-permanently.  Supposedly they can be registered with the government and thereafter are allowed and forced to go without clothing wherever they go. 

Definition of Permanudehttp://talesofnudity.tumblr.com/post/147020460065/what-is-the-definition-of-permanude

Not going on in real life, but the more our youth are fantasizing about going naked all day all over town, the better for nudity in general. 
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Re: Permanude
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2016, 03:36:54 AM »
I bumped into Nude World Order tumbler with this permanude fantasy. It is kind of funny, some fun, some a bit sick. I not sure of the demographic. It could be older people, too. Something is keeping the author very prolific and i suppose that that is having lots of followers.

Nude as punishment, can't be good. It associates shame. But there are those who are voluntary and trying to cope and liking being nude. My jury is out as to it being a good thing to promote the idea of free public nudity, or normalizing it in a few minds this way, or getting a charge out of this tumbler, or as a vehicle of social change, or a way to plant seeds.

What a twist though. The government stepping in to regulate naked. How did that idea evolve? AND guess what? The government over regulated and screwed it up! ;D

I dunno. Something in me felt kind of pervy, something else felt guilt for enjoying some of that stuff. It is certainly a twist.
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Re: Permanude
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2016, 05:17:58 PM »
I guess maybe kind of  tying a few threads into one (this one, the clothing one and winter) and excuse me for not remembering the place I read this but a short story in a collection of science fiction was about being permanude. Although it wasn't called that when in the future water becomes too expensive for anything other than drinking people could opt out and become nudists to save on resources. The catch being one could only own one pair of shoes and a coat but in return their taxes were lower than the general population so their quality of life was better. Those who chose to become nudies were ridiculed early on but when the general population saw what they could attain with more disposable income, like nicer apartments and vacations, more and more made the move. During the winter doldrums I'll have to search to see if it's still published somewhere.
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Re: Permanude
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2016, 12:05:31 AM »
I found the link to be a dud, unfortunately, Bob.
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Re: Permanude
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2016, 03:52:47 PM »
The short stories about being sentenced to nudity as punishment seems to have vanished and been replaced by photos.  Not entirely about naturism but an interesting concept. 

Try this link. 

http://nudeworldorder.tumblr.com/

http://nudeworldorder2.tumblr.com/#posts
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Re: Permanude
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2016, 12:13:17 PM »
The content from those links smack of Clickbait, I would opine, Bob!
Very titillating but hardly brain fodder!  Nudey voyeurism rather than proper naturism.

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Re: Permanude
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2016, 12:03:50 AM »
Common in history a conquered people would be stripped naked by their conquerors in attempt at humiliation.   Which is what Isaiah's naked prophecy was about.   But as a punishment I haven't heard much of, although perhaps it was done on occasion.   The latest prophet of significance has said that some of God's people in the end will be put in prison camps,  their clothing removed for their humiliation,  and killed,  just because they insist on obeying all 10 of the ten commandments,  when the governments are trying to force everyone to obey man's version of them.  (thinking they please God by doing so)   God allows it to happen for some reason.  Final character development and testing perhaps.  But He sends them encouragement and hope in the middle of it,   the view included God sending a couple in to provide food and healing,  going in naked in order to not attract attention.  Although God does hide them so they can walk past the guards without hindrance.   (I'm convinced the dreams Ernie is having are from God because the "tone"  of them as a whole are following right down the line of the ancient prophets, hard on sin [making many people condemn him] and presenting the love of Jesus in that hard to get perfect balance of mercy and justice. Otherwise the details on future events being pictured is amazing.)

However someone imagining permanude, creating scenarios around it, may well have lustful motives.   Although permanude by choice can be done out of enjoyment of the freedom of feeling.    I think I would choose a permanude life if conditions were comfortable for it.  For now temporarinude on occasion is all I can manage. 

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Re: Permanude
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2016, 12:07:43 AM »
The content from those links smack of Clickbait, I would opine, Bob!
Very titillating but hardly brain fodder!  Nudey voyeurism rather than proper naturism.
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Of course its click bait.   But the more people are exposed to the idea of going naked all the time, and the idea that clothes aren't really needed, the better.  How or why they see this idea doesn't really matter. 

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Re: Permanude
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2016, 10:00:03 AM »
Or - to quote Phineas T Barnum "There is no such thing as bad publicity."
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Re: Permanude
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2016, 01:20:58 AM »
Or - to quote Phineas T Barnum "There is no such thing as bad publicity."


EXACTLY
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Re: Permanude
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2016, 11:41:15 PM »
Well, I guess so.  I recall back in the day or two...or three ago I expressed quite strong advocacy of any publicity about naturism being a chance to make people consider the business of being naked.  My argument was that exposure (yes, yes, I mean publicity) creates familiarity and people becoming used to the concept, in the same way as, say, the Paralympics have made us much more tolerant and informed about disability, has provided role models for admirable human spirit in the conquering of disability and we are all more comfortable, I feel, with the challenge of seeing disability more, for instance, amputees, deformity and palsy.  In another forum, we are all much more tolerant of homosexuality today and that has been a 50 year campaign by the gay community to dispel the notion of it being 'evil' and to challenge those that tried to hide it or deny it by positive publicity, advocacy and speaking out.  So it should be with the naked community,  relatively benign as our proclivity is, its constant presentation to media audiences in whatever form will advance the cause of emancipation of nudism, little by little.

I didn't think that site was a particularly helpful one in promoting the above, but as you point out, Bob, it was an instance of portrayal of relatively gentle and attractive (bodily) exposure. 

My general antithesis for clickbait is that a) it gunks up the PC and b) it is a coercive, hegemonistic practice that seeks to control our behaviours and force advertising upon us! When we click into a top 20 or a "You'll Never Believe This!" photo montage we are being controlled and channelled in our behaviour by slick, clever, know-it-all, anonymous marketers - and that's anathema to me!

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Re: Permanude
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2018, 08:59:47 PM »
Actually, the concept seems to have started with a Tumbler blog, then Smashwords stories (I think), then mainly in a series of books by Gloria available on Amazon and other online ebook sellers as well as a couple of other authors. The NewWorldOrder has taken on some of it on their website now, mainly in copies of the Tumbler blogs with photos.

The concept is that the government has setup protected lifestyle laws for ALL sorts of beliefs and ways of living, including nudist/naturists, religious groups, etc. Permanude is a lifestyle where the person enrolling under the Permanude protection MUST be nude at all times, all places (with some allowances for weather, i.e. heavy coats and other cold weather gear over nudity, etc.). Since a person who is always nude WILL have occurrences of sexual arousal (erections, etc. depending on gender), as well as the need to take care of such, the Permanude are not subject to ANY of the obscenity or vulgarity laws (nudists/naturists are, although they can be nude any where, anytime), meaning they can engage in public sexuality anywhere, anytime! People can signup for Permanude status once they are 18 years old, for varying periods (2 years minimum, except for a short term vacation signup, up to lifetime). There are also provisions for being forced into Permanude status as a legal punishment, including as part of jail sentences.

Anyway, it all makes for some interesting and fun erotic fiction, as well as some semi-serious stories on being permanude without the eroticism, by various authors.

Without the sexual part might be of interest to many social nudists...

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Re: Permanude
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2018, 09:29:18 PM »
Tumbler is taking down all  nude photos.  The links above seem to  have vanished. 

I did some searching and found Nude World Order  https://www.nudeworldorder.net/blog/page/7/ 

All their stories/photos are young female, but all publicity is good publicity.  Let the millennials fantasize about going naked all the time.

Are there any other Permanude story sites with links? 
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Re: Permanude
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2018, 04:14:38 AM »

Welcome to Freerangenaturism, Ben. How about posting a message in the introduction section?

I don't know anything about this Permanude business, but I can't agree with you, Bob. If this Nudeworldorder featured both sexes and all ages, then we could call it an advance, but a presentation of nudity that's overloaded with pretty girls is just showing nudity "same as it ever was".

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Re: Permanude
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2018, 02:52:37 PM »
I recall from an article in a nudist magazine from about fifty years ago (you know, the Golden Age of Nudism) discussing why there were so many photos of nice looking, young people in the magazines. The answer was, a picture is worth a thousand words. The stated aim or purpose of those magazines was to increase interest in nudism (as it existed then). There might be some disagreement as to whether or not that was really the aim of the magazines but as far as that goes, they were correct. I don't recall when or how I first learned about nudism (as it existed then) but it was by way of those magazines, or one of them, at least, that I actually made a visit to a club. That club was the Pen-Mar Club in western Maryland. I think some clubs have changed considerably in character since then.

I think the existence of certain photos and videos supposedly blur the distinction between reality and fantasy as well as the difference between acceptable and healthy family nudism lifestyles and what are essentially sex-oriented conditions or arrangements. As it is, the reality itself is hazy enough in some places, even public places where public nudity has been permitted for a few decades. And that is unfortunate for the future of legal public nudity, such as on public beaches. However, as I've mentioned before somewhere or other, I think the general public is fairly accepting of nudism, viewing it as an offbeat thing to do but as harmless as Civil War reenacting. There are of course those who object to anything remotely connected with nudism (think of the children!) and they always have the loudest voices.

What I can't understand is how so-called gentlemen's clubs seem to thrive in places that one would expect the greatest objections would be voiced, places with a lot of conservative or evangelical churches. Some places like that even have liquor stores in the local 7-11 store. Go figure.

As for the young people in the nudist magazines of fifty years ago, they're the same people appearing in nudist magazines today, or so it seems.