Drone update

[Peter S]

http://www.uckya.com/organizing-backyard-nudist-colony-las-vegas-nevada/

Short article and video about this bloke in Vegas with a back yard nudist club, but the good bit is his answer to peeping drones - he's fitted his own drone with a catching net! Neat. The video includes a shot of if in flight, towards the end

Peter

[ric]

ive been lookine on line at home built crossbows

[eyesup]

The problem with arrows is they have to come down somewhere. If you are lucky, no harm is done.

Ask Longfellow. 

Duane

[Greenbare Woods]

I would not be hard to produce a radio frequency transmitter that disrupted control of the drone and caused it to crash.  I'm sure though that government  would outlaw and punish it worse than arrows. 

[Peter S]

Just had a case reported today of a drone near-miss with an airliner on landing approach at 10,000 feet! When they go that high they're flying saucers!!

[JOhnGw]

And a near miss on the approaches to Heathrow.

[eyesup]

Some fool will do something foolish and bring down the full weight of congress on the new market.

Frankly I don't see the difference between a peeping tom or someone using a drone.

Duane

[Greenbare Woods]

Frankly I don't see the difference between a peeping tom or someone using a drone.
Duane

You raise a good comparison, Duane. 

These days the better space satellites can probably take a pretty decent photo of naked ramblers.  A few years ago there was a thing on internet listing Google Earth photos of naked bodies.  A lot of Google Earth was done with high flying airplanes though. 

Public statements about space spies say they can read car license numbers.  How much better than that they have become is secret is only a guess.  They may be able to count the hairs on your nipple if they bothered to do so.  I've pretty much given up and just accepted that I'm going to be photographed naked if I'm out wandering about naked.

Twenty five years ago I was standing up naked at Spence hot springs in New Mexico when I looked over to the next land rise and saw this guy with a camera and very large lens pointed at us naked hot springs people.  He was obviously trying to hide in the woods while taking photos of naked humans.   At that point there wasn't much I could do but look straight at him, smile and wave.  He got embarrassed at being seen and left.  Pretty much if its some guy in the woods with a long lens, a Google plane, a drone, spy satellite, or another hiker with a cell phone, we're going to get our images recorded.   

I suppose a "Peeping Tom" is someone who comes up to your window and peeks under the curtains trying to see someone who isn't going about outside naked.  But what about someone who climbs a ladder to peek over your 10 foot cinder block wall and see your backyard pool area?   Its just hard to know these days.   I usually ignore surveillance cameras.   

[nudewalker]

We go through these discussions every once in a while and I brought it up again after reading Bob's post. Why is it when the news shows security camera footage they always say the police need help in identifying this suspect? And the footage is so bad that only if one would recognize an article of clothing could you give any kind of help. Anyway, I agree with Bob and I no longer concern myself with security cameras as the feed isn't viewed without a reason. So as long as no crimes are committed your image is spared. Even then they would be looking for something specific so I doubt you'd be noticed then.

AS for the drones; if nudity were the norm that  would solve our problems but the bigger picture comes from the danger to air traffic. And as Duane mentioned someone will do something foolish sooner or later. Or somehow it will get sorted out in the courts but I'm not looking for a favorable ruling for individual rights!

[eyesup]

My issue with drones is strictly one regarding individual rights. If I am on my property, no one has the right to observe, monitor and document what I am doing. This another one of those constitutional rights that is slowly disappearing. With electronic surveillance of all types showing up in all manner of devices, we surrender these voluntarily by accepting them into our homes.

I just have a gut reaction against them. Just bein' my normal ornery self.

Duane

[Greenbare Woods]

I watched a Detective show on TV yesterday.  Some guy in Wyoming was killed and his car was stolen.  Cops found a security camera down the road from his condo that showed a pickup and car haul trailer turning around in the parking lot right before the murder.  Then they found other security cams at other nearby businesses and had a photo of the pickup with stolen car on the trailer.  Eventually they found security cam images of the truck and trailer, and the man's face, at a truck stop an hour down the highway.  That one was clear enough to get the license plate number on the rented trailer.  Soon they had video of him turning in the rented trailer in Oklahoma.   I have read that there are many more cameras in places like London than in Wyoming and Oklahoma.   

Bottom line is that we are being recorded on video everywhere we go if someone is interested enough to take the time to sit through hours of nothing to find us.

There still are some hidden places where video is not recorded, out in the wild perhaps, but watch out for "game" cams.   I bought a game cam a while ago.  It was about the size of a box lunch.  I may have noticed one of those if I walked by.  The ones they sell today can be as small as a key fob, and painted camo.   No way anyone will see that.

We are going to have to be more demanding with politicians to make it clearly legal to be naked.  Otherwise we will be naked on video in court for "disturbing the peace" or some such charge if some idiot gets "offended."   I tend to ignore video because USUALLY nobody is watching or cares.  But the long term trend requires political activism.

Bob

[nuduke]

I read somewhere that UK has more cctv surveillance than anywhere else.  We just love it in the uk and drones make the job that much easier!  I suspect one day we will not go a day without being buzzed by many automatic drones programmed to go take a peek at what the AI programme thinks is suspicious.  If the AI is anything like the Amazon Alexa I bought the wife for her birthday there is going to be a hell of a lot of injustice done.


Mind you, drones are making a major contribution to TV documentaries these days.  In the past aerial and even moving camera photography was expensive.  Nowadays with AI controlling the stability of drones and Hi Def cameras so small they can be a drone's payload, there are some spectacular landscapes and moving shots being taken from drones.


I thought I might acquire a camera drone for fun but I reckon there must be a risk of someone complaining you are snooping - the reverse of the problem of earlier in this discussion (being snooped upon).


John

[jbeegoode]

Perhaps if you can't beat 'em, join 'em? For example, Nuduke could scope out an entire area, ascertain that there is no none else in the greater vicinity and be free to have a nude drone session, or hike.
Jbee

[nudewalker]

I had won a drone in a Chinese gift exchange and was thinking about documenting an naked adventure with it. For example, the wildlife areas frequented that have the expanses of cornfields or even those wide grassy paths that Jbee loves to see. Just when the juices of imagination began flowing it got stolen from me. I never thought about it again until the last post. It might have to be a two coffee pot morning!

[eyesup]

We are going to have to be more demanding with politicians to make it clearly legal to be naked.  Otherwise we will be naked on video in court for "disturbing the peace" or some such charge if some idiot gets "offended."   I tend to ignore video because USUALLY nobody is watching or cares.  But the long term trend requires political activism.

Bob, I think you are probably right about that!
A silver lining of sorts?

Duane