Nudes in the news

[Greenbare Woods]

This is my local area.  I notice a couple of parts to this story. 

• The police were called about a naked man in the park, but didn't bother to respond until some hours later there was a report of a) shooting and b) unattended children.
• Police did not arrest the man for being naked in the park.  It was all about protecting the children and getting medical help for the man.

Sounds like the guy got an OD on some meth or something.  That junk is bad news.


Spokane Police on shooting call switch gears to search for naked father of unattended children
Posted: Aug 30, 2017 12:42 PM PST
Updated: Aug 30, 2017 1:49 PM PST

Spokane Police officers responding to a shooting call at 9th and Perry Tuesday night were notified by a citizen of three young children who had been left unattended at their home for several hours.

Officers located the children and began to look for the parents. They learned that a report several hours earlier of a naked man running through Liberty Park might be the father of the children. A search began for the man with help from Spokane County's Air1 helicopter and the man was located near Altamont and I-90.

The man, who was determined to be the father of the children, was disoriented and dehydrated and taken to the hospital for treatment.

"This is just one of many calls where our officers are asked to care for the safety and well-being of members of our community, of all ages," Detective Ben Green said in a release. "By the end of this incident, patrol officers were able once again to ensure the safety of everyone involved."

http://www.khq.com/story/36254348/spokane-police-on-shooting-call-switch-gears-to-search-for-naked-father-of-unattended-children

[Greenbare Woods]

Paris opens a nudist reserve:

Parisian nudists will finally have a spot to take it all off – for the next few weeks at least – at a secluded zone in the Bois de Vincennes park east of the city.

“The creation of an area in the Bois de Vincennes where naturism will be authorised is part of our open-minded vision for the use of Parisian public spaces,” said Penelope Komites, a deputy mayor in charge of the city’s parks.
'Nobody runs for the hills': is Britain ready for everyday nudity?
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The site, still considered an experiment, will be open from Thursday 31 August until 15 October, from 8am-7.30pm (0600-1730 GMT).

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/31/revealed-paris-opens-first-nudist-park-no-voyeurs-allowed

[ric]

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4837188/Man-carry-sunbathing-nude-garden-school.html

[JOhnGw]

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4837188/Man-carry-sunbathing-nude-garden-school.html

This has been discussed at length in the British Naturism forum as a reasonably enlightened approach be the local authority and it didn't cost them anything extra to put frosted glass instead of clear glass in the relevant windows.

[Greenbare Woods]

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4837188/Man-carry-sunbathing-nude-garden-school.html

This has been discussed at length in the British Naturism forum as a reasonably enlightened approach be the local authority and it didn't cost them anything extra to put frosted glass instead of clear glass in the relevant windows.

The work of children is learning all the things they will need to know to be functional adults. Children need learn about their own species, and thus about themselves, by passively observing a wide variety of adults engaged in a wide variety of normal human activity. Systematically  depriving children of an opportunity to observe adults of their own species is harmful and abusive to children.  Schools are designed and constructed to deliberately deprive children of education. 

[JOhnGw]

In this case the council's reaction seems to have been threefold:
- To avoid potentially dangerous situations form children bunching on the staircase
- To respect the privacy of the naturist
- To avoid potential trouble from a litigous militant prude parent

[Greenbare Woods]

In this case the council's reaction seems to have been threefold:
- To avoid potentially dangerous situations form children bunching on the staircase

Obviously everyone understands that children are desperate to learn and would bunch up if actual learning about their own species was available at the school.  Schools must prevent learning at all cost.

- To respect the privacy of the naturist
- To avoid potential trouble from a litigous militant prude parent

Government and prudes work hard to keep children in gilded cages (schools) and prevent them from learning.  It is harmful and abusive.  The school might be sued and punished if it allowed any actual learning about human biology. 

Bob

[jbeegoode]

That place looks like a prison facility, just a bit of barbed wire.
Jbee

[John P]

Bob, here's another of your neighbors, and this time the police don't seem to be on his side, even though this is comparatively in the big city:
https://patch.com/washington/bellevue/nude-man-tells-police-hes-too-hot-wear-clothes

"Multiple citizens called to report the naked man, and Bellevue police took him to jail on suspicion of exposure." Are they allowed to do that?

[Greenbare Woods]

Bob, here's another of your neighbors, and this time the police don't seem to be on his side, even though this is comparatively in the big city:
https://patch.com/washington/bellevue/nude-man-tells-police-hes-too-hot-wear-clothes

"Multiple citizens called to report the naked man, and Bellevue police took him to jail on suspicion of exposure." Are they allowed to do that?

Thanks for the link.

Yes. The public reacts to seeing humans because the public doesn't see humans.  Its like bare feet.  They tend to toss a bare foot person out of stores and restaurants because they falsely believe that bare feet must be illegal.  In the same manner, nobody ever sees naked humans so they falsely believe not being covered must be illegal.  I note that it took multiple citizen complaints before the bully police responded to this naked human.   Your article also mentions a jogging human in the next over town a few months ago who was not arrested.   Few or no complaints on that one apparently.

Cops are bullies who tend to react to complaints rather than law.  The police rule by fear and violence, not by law.   This time the cops arrested the man for "suspicion."   Despite the statement by the small town news reporter that "stripping down to your birthday suit is technically illegal," there is a long way between "suspicion" and charges filed in court.  Several court cases in Washington State have held that just being seen while human is "technically" legal.  They arrest him and "sentence" him to one night in jail without trial. It also costs a big lump of money to hire lawyers.  So he's jailed and fined even though within the law.  Police rule by fear and violence.

I haven't gone walking naked down main street in the city.  My public excursions are rural and brief. 

I'm really glad to read that some courageous men are pushing public exposure in my state.  Perhaps this is a test case to ask the court for a reprimand of the cops.  Or, perhaps they just want a case being tossed out after flagrant public exposure.  A couple years ago the Seattle police arrested 2 men at the WNBR.  That arrest got tossed out by the courts and they haven't harassed the WNBR since.  This may be another push by nudist advocates.   It will be interesting to follow.  If they toss the arrest out of court I may join him next time.

I'm disappointed that the guy wasn't barefoot.

I did a web search to see if I could find any other articles about this event.  My search came up with several other naked people arrested in Seattle or nearby communities. They were arrested for trespass, robbery, theft, drug use, and other crimes, but not charged for being naked. Street criminals are going naked while breaking into houses and doing crimes.  Nudity must be getting more popular.

Bob

[eyesup]

. . . it didn't cost them anything extra to put frosted glass instead of clear glass in the relevant windows.

It’s a good example of how reasonable people can come up with a solution. His main concerns were the restriction he would see because he would have to stop his sunbathing and because of his concern of the children.

Duane

[eyesup]

On Wednesday, the local National Weather Service reported that the region had experienced the 63rd consecutive day where temperatures have been above 70 degrees, the third warmest July and August here on record.

I guess that argument flies in Seattle but in the summer here it seldom drops below 90º at night. Poor baby! To get any traction here he needs to get a little more inventive for his reasons to be naked.

Whatever works, though!

Duane

[eyesup]

Bob, it seems to me that police eventually respond to multiple complaints just for show. Where they err is arresting instead of just trying to determine if there is a problem. If it’s illegal to be naked in the state, they cannot just ignore it. Their job is to enforce, not rule on or interpret the law. Granted some officers go too far, but if the law is bad, the citizens need get up off their fundament and get rid of it. That’s not the job of law enforcement.

I'm disappointed that the guy wasn't barefoot.

I used to go barefoot while walking the dog in my neighborhood. I stopped when I started noticing how much broken glass and other sharp edged trash lazy people threw onto the streets and sidewalks.

Duane

[Greenbare Woods]

To get any traction here he needs to get a little more inventive for his reasons to be naked.
Duane

To be convicted they have to show in court that he had an INTENTION of causing someone else to be alarmed or affronted.  He is now on police record of being naked because of hot weather.    It may be hard for the prosecution to prove he had that other intention.

Bob

[Peter S]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/10/naturists-accused-naked-aggression-beach-made-famous-richard/

"We shall fight them on the beaches ..."?