Nudes in the news

[Greenbare Woods]

Not all of the news is good news. And not everyone in Vermont is a Bernie Sanders voter.

http://www.caledonianrecord.com/news/local/waterford-man-charged-with-assault-at-nude-beach/article_be47a4c1-ed84-54d9-b965-be3dfeb60d69.html

Its hard to tell who someone would vote for.   That group of Bernie voters out at UC Berkeley last month got very violent.   This Barber person who is charged with assault has a French origin name but the actions don't seem very French. 

Bob

[nudewalker]

This reads like one of those "hold my beer and watch this!" stories. I've witnessed the same type of behavior at textile beaches, usually fueled by a few beers and some macho bravado. It is hard to tell who someone would vote for, both sides have their share of nut jobs. That is to avoid the use of a more descriptive term.

[eyesup]

I always told my kids that stupidity is no respecter of race, gender or family origin.
Two quotes from "Twelfth Night" come to mind:

   Foolery, sir, does walk about the orb like the sun, it shines every where.

and

   There is no darkness but ignorance.

Both are spoken by Feste, the fool in the play.

It is one of the things that makes America a frustrating puzzle to new citizens, and entertaining to watch to the old hands on the block. Unless, of course, you are on the receiving end of a knuckle sandwich.

JohnP, what is the legal age in Vermont? Southworth, the 19 yr. old involved in the altercation, was shielded by his mommy from any contact by the police. I guess he exhibits independent behavior only when she is not around.

Duane

[John P]

Speaking of foolery, and orbs which do shine like the sun:

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/eastside/police-stop-nude-jogger-on-microsoft-campus-after-seeing-illuminated-buttocks/

Free range naturism seems to have occurred on Bill Gates' territory, but the police said "jogging in the nude could be considered indecent exposure", which I suppose shows some generosity of spirit. As for “trying to build up his immune system to fight the cold weather", I'm doubtful.

[Greenbare Woods]

Speaking of foolery, and orbs which do shine like the sun:

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/eastside/police-stop-nude-jogger-on-microsoft-campus-after-seeing-illuminated-buttocks/

Free range naturism seems to have occurred on Bill Gates' territory, but the police said "jogging in the nude could be considered indecent exposure", which I suppose shows some generosity of spirit. As for “trying to build up his immune system to fight the cold weather", I'm doubtful.

Being naked is not criminal in Washington State unless there is deliberate acts to cause someone else alarm or affront.   Jogging and minding your own business is legal, and the cops apparently know it but harassed the fellow anyway. 

Here in Spokane, Washington State, there was a news story this week about a nude jogger who tried to capture and carry off a young woman.  The news story said he tried to wrap her in a blanket and capture her.  She escaped and called the cops.  He was soon caught.  He was charged with a couple of serious crimes, but no mention was made that he was charged with any crime for being naked.    He apparently did not get much notice while jogging naked until he attacked a female jogger.   That's pretty much how it should be.

The cops at Microsoft should mind their own business.  (Perhaps Microsoft asked them to interfere with the jogger.)  Cops pretty much do what big corporations ask even when its not legal.

Bob

 

[jbeegoode]

I hope violence doesn't erupt first hand. I was threatened once, but when his drunken girlfriend screamed, "You guys are so cool, I just love you," and then pulled off her top, he was busy trying to convince her otherwise to bother anybody else. Alcohol....
Jbee

[eyesup]

. . “seeing nude buttocks illuminated by a streetlight,”

Are these special streetlights that target only the buttocks of a person? how much extra do you pay for such a specialized feature?

In some quarters that would be regarded as sexual discrimination.

. . Police warn that jogging in the nude could be considered indecent exposure - although the man was not charged with a crime.

“We do not have pictures to share of this incident,” police said in the release. “You are welcome.”

Maybe I'll send a thank-you note to the police thanking them for protecting my "oh-so fragile" sensibilities.

Duane

[John P]

In some quarters that would be regarded as sexual discrimination.

"Call from headquarters--they're reporting a view of hindquarters."

[nuduke]

Last night there was a new 1-off Channel 4 documentary about The Great British Skinny Dip which was a BN marketing event run in September last year.  I suspect the link won't work outside the UK but here it is for interest - Brits, it is available for a month from yesterday (no charge but you may have to sign up to watch).
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-great-british-skinny-dip


I can't decide whether the programme was pro-, anti- or neutral.  I guess the naturists who spoke, who were mostly regular club members and, as the documentary advised, were more senior members of society, gave a pretty good impression and the BN Marketing guy Andrew Welch was pretty positive and the depiction of his relationship was fairly sympathetic.  There was a scene interviewing the next door neighbour of a garden naturist which unearthed some real body insecurity of the interviewee resulting from her desire to be normal and fit society's impression of her.  That counterpoised and supported the naturists who almost all said words to the effect of being comfortable with what they are and therefore having positive consequences of naturism.  However, the latter stages of the documentary underlined the fact that only about 300 had attended a national event held all over the country and that nobody new had turned up (it was foul weather - respect to those that did support the event).  I guess the attempt was to suggest that Naturism was a bit irrelevant and was dying out in the UK.


Somebody else watch it and give us all their opinion.


My wife watched some of it with me and a useful conversation ensued where I averred several times during the programme that chumming up with a lot of strangers in a naturist club, naturist discos and other nude togetherness was not at all on my naturist agenda (unless the opportunity arose to enjoy some nudity thereby e.g. on a collective skinny dip).  I think she was relieved by this - maybe she was afraid I would try and drag her along to a CO club.  I remarked that there was nothing wrong with being naked in itself but I didn't need the barbecues, miniten, discos other people and what not any more than she did.  I also opined that I would love to go open water swimming naked in a lake or a river and would be quite happy to join a group to do that on such as TGtBrSkDip.  No adverse reaction to that, probably because it isn't on the agenda as a possibility at the moment.  She didn't ask what was on my agenda!  I didn't mention that I had been to one of the clubs shown in the programme!


I also came across this http://www.gold.ac.uk/news/naked-and-unashamed/
Somebody seems to have done some proper research and concluded a specific benefit of social naturism.


John

[nudewalker]

Well, I'm going to assume that being outside the UK it prevented my viewing. I got past the point of accepting there would be frontal nudity but that is as far as it would go. Maybe someone will figure out a way for us here to circumvent it or else move it to a venue where we could see it. It was a shame that the weather was foul and it seemed to give you the feeling that the producers were trying to give the impression that naturism is dying off in England.

Proper research? That is becoming laughable here in the US! It seems science is being attacked on all fronts starting with the Creationists to the Global Warming Deniers. I swear they are trying to take us back to the Dark Ages.  One discussion session I challenged a person to provide evidence, not opinion, that children seeing parents nude would scar them for life. They had to admit that all their searches led them to the one study that confirmed that there was no link and it's the only study published! Everything else out there are opinions.

But now I am rethinking, as you provided food for thought, what should my naturist agenda be? As of now there is a peace and happiness in the little niche that has been carved out from the life changing retirement. I have written to law makers, policy makers, department heads of parks and forests plus a few others to plant the seed of nude recreation. Is it time to take it to the next level? And how would I go about that? I need another pot of coffee.

[eyesup]

Yeah, John. I spotted that one while browsing from a different post. It's a good article.

Duane

[Greenbare Woods]

US Marine Corps attacks naked photos of female Marines.   Commander says of photos female marines "“When I hear allegations of Marines denigrating their fellow Marines,..." 

This whole thing is sending a powerful message that photos of the person, and not just uniforms, is denigrating and destructive.   My reaction is to wonder what is wrong with sharing photos and appreciating the beauty of other people?   I think the Officers are sick.  Their Prudery is a psychological problem. 


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/10/nude-photo-sharing-scandal-at-marines-expands-to-other-branches.htm

[Greenbare Woods]

Naked female wearing white paint.  Not arrested.   Not being denigrated.




https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2981788/naked-female-clown-white-paint-red-nose-worcester/

[nudewalker]

Say what you will but there is a double standard which in this case goes against the male sex. An exposed penis is seen as bad as an exposed gun. Both are deemed dangerous!

[JOhnGw]

Say what you will but there is a double standard which in this case goes against the male sex. An exposed penis is seen as bad as an exposed gun. Both are deemed dangerous!

In the UK a gun is usually regarded as more dangerous than a penis but I'm not sure that is true across the big puddle.